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    Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

    About these #Zuckerberg questions regarding data download and portability. Last night I downloaded my 16MB Facebook data file, and you can do the same thing (https://www.facebook.com/help/131112897028467/ …). A few thoughts. 1/

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      2. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        What you get from Facebook is only loosely referred to as "data." It's a collection of web pages (HTML) along with a handful of images and videos. It's more accurately the *content* I've inputted into Facebook. 2/

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      3. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        And about that HTML. It's possible to give meaningful structure (and thus some portability) to data in HTML, but Facebook has chosen not to give the data that structure. 3/

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      4. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        There are also some notable omissions. 1) None of the comments I've written on my posts or other people's posts are included. Do I not "own" those comments? 4/

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      5. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        2) None of my likes are included. Those likes were shared with Cambridge Analytica, but I can't download a record of them? 5/

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      6. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        3) None of friends' images that I've been tagged in are included in my Facebook data download. 6/

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      7. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        4) Congressman @RepMcNerney just asked about the presence of browsing history in Facebook's data download. McNerney's staff and I saw the same thing: No browsing history in the data download. Zuckerberg said if it's not included, Facebook doesn't have it. Not true for me. 7/

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      8. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        5) Nothing about my location history is included. Does Facebook have *no information* about my location? 8/

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      9. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11

        To sum up, it's interesting to see how Facebook makes privacy trade-offs when that sharing (i.e., portability) has the potential to hurt its business: Settings are private by default, no options to share more. 9/9

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      10. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 12

        Jake Snow Retweeted Will_Duffield

        Two important clarifications to this thread (thanks @Will_Duffield). IP-inferred (but not GPS) location is in the Facebook download. And Zuckerberg clarified that browsing history is turned into ad interests (which are included). https://twitter.com/Will_Duffield/status/984439496329527296 …https://twitter.com/Will_Duffield/status/984499022160449536 …

        Jake Snow added,

        Will_Duffield @Will_Duffield
        Replying to @snowjake
        On the browsing history concern, Zuckerberg later corrected his initial claim, apparently browsing history is stored temporarily, then turned into ad interests. pic.twitter.com/03ossCPF9N
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      11. End of conversation
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      2. Kevin Bankston‏ @KevinBankston Apr 11
        Replying to @snowjake

        Since you're watching--who has been asking about portability? (I would love to talk with ya'll, or more accurately, plot with ya'll, on this issue ;-))

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      3. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11
        Replying to @KevinBankston

        This morning on the download issue, it was McNerney. The portability question came up yesterday, but not today explicitly, I don't think. (And yes, let's plot)

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      4. Kevin Bankston‏ @KevinBankston Apr 11
        Replying to @snowjake

        Kevin Bankston Retweeted Kevin Bankston

        Check this out:https://twitter.com/KevinBankston/status/984118317886689281 …

        Kevin Bankston added,

        Kevin Bankston @KevinBankston
        "Move their data anywhere they want?" Not true, Mr. Zuckerberg. From Facebook's original description of download-your-data: "This file and the information contained within it, is designed for an individual's use and not for developers or other services." https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/984086115392147456 …
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      5. Jake Snow‏ @snowjake Apr 11
        Replying to @KevinBankston

        Mysterious disappearance. The doc's description is more accurate than Zuckerberg's version: "Within the file you will have access to your profile information, a list of your friends, photos, videos and other content you've shared on your profile."

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      6. End of conversation
      1. Matt Cagle‏Verified account @Matt_Cagle Apr 11
        Replying to @snowjake

        Matt Cagle Retweeted Jake Snow

        Why Facebook’s data download feature sucks: a thread from @ACLU_NorCal’s @snowjake ⤵️https://twitter.com/snowjake/status/984108319924105216 …

        Matt Cagle added,

        Jake Snow @snowjake
        About these #Zuckerberg questions regarding data download and portability. Last night I downloaded my 16MB Facebook data file, and you can do the same thing (https://www.facebook.com/help/131112897028467/ …). A few thoughts. 1/
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