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    1. Brad Frost‏ @brad_frost 8 May 2018
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      How 'bout that CSS-in-JS?pic.twitter.com/mcR9scUhQq

      Example of CSS-in-JS
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    2. David Brunelle‏ @davidbrunelle 8 May 2018
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      Replying to @brad_frost

      Serious question: why the snark?

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    3. Brad Frost‏ @brad_frost 8 May 2018
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      Serious answer: I thought it was funny as it's a hot, controversial topic and I was looking at this specific code. Real talk: I definitely want to learn more, although I am skeptical of the approach.http://bradfrost.com/blog/link/whats-wrong-with-css-in-js/ …

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 May 2018
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      Replying to @brad_frost @davidbrunelle

      As a browser engineer, let me be suuuper clear: I've seen this be face-palmingly bad *more often than not*. It requires all the build fu be perfect to not be a net perf disaster.

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 May 2018
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      So, yes, when the build stuff is all lined up (and you picked the right system), it can be net-neutral. But is this better for users *on average*? Hrmmmmmm 🤔🤔🧐

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    6. David Brunelle‏ @davidbrunelle 8 May 2018
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      I'm in the "it depends on your situation and requirements" camp. Mostly bothered by the tone of the discussions I've seen lately and what I perceive as dogma. (I might also just be cranky)

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    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 May 2018
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      Replying to @davidbrunelle @brad_frost

      I get why it can seem like old-guard trying to gatekeep. I'm no fan of CSS (in general) and grok how this can help. Just saying help vs. hurt is currently -- at a minimum -- a contended question.

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    8. Brad Frost‏ @brad_frost 8 May 2018
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      As a browser person, I bet you have some pretty wild reasons for not being a fan of CSS!

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 May 2018
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      Replying to @brad_frost @davidbrunelle

      No man, I just hate global variables ;-) But seriously, Shadow DOM is the answer to CSS in the same way that "structured programming" is the answer to assembly.

      10:23 PM - 8 May 2018
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        2. Stephanie Rewis‏ @stefsull 8 May 2018
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          Can you expound a little, my friend? I struggle with this...

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 May 2018
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          Replying to @stefsull @brad_frost @davidbrunelle

          CSS w/o Shadow DOM puts all rules and all elements into the same namespace for rule resolution. This creates all sorts of problems; specificity breaks down at scale.

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        2. John Allsopp‏ @johnallsopp 8 May 2018
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          I feel this keeps coming back to the global nature of css.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 May 2018
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          Yep. It's why Shadow DOM matters.

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        2. Snook‏ @snookca 9 May 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @brad_frost @davidbrunelle

          I like Shadow DOM (and Web Components). I’d really like a way to have that without JavaScript.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 May 2018
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          The JS-uber-alles faction of the web community won a lot of those debates by arguing down features like imports. Not sure what to say except that declarative is hard both technically and politically.

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        1. Kent Brewster‏ @kentbrew 8 May 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @brad_frost @davidbrunelle

          This sort of thing hurts my soul. But if it works and helps developers be better/faster/stronger, ship it!

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