> People are using Electron because they don't have the resources to make a Desktop app otherwise. This may be true sometimes, but this just IS NOT true broadly and dismisses the notion that building desktop applications with Electron is *preferable* for nearly everybody.
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Slack is one of the most well funded startups in San Francisco. Microsoft is a publicly traded company with deep pockets and more "native" desktop experience than any company on the planet. Electron is NOT being used due to a lack of resources, it's being *chosen* on merit.
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Replying to @mikeal
Don’t ignore the security architecture problems. They are serious. My high level MS contacts were concerned enough to contemplate kicking Electron apps out of the Win10 store. I do not know where this stands, will hope to find out late this month.
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Replying to @BrendanEich @mikeal
I’ve been thinking about this a lot. Does Electron have security problems *beyond other native app platforms*? I just take it for granted any native app is incredibly risky, and that I need to trust the creators—one reason among many why I prefer web apps most of the time
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Replying to @AdamRackis @mikeal
Native apps require high trust. Electron for building native apps. Electron requires high trust. But there's more: Electron makes web content langs + Node.js in unsandboxed Cr the default. Doesn't mean attacker's web content, but latter flows too easily by accident & social eng.
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There's a reason we're investing in desktop PWAs. Is it on the Brave roadmap?
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We are based on chromium stable (except on iOS of course) -- what's missing?
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If topic is Electron (it was ;-), then PWAs don't take it down without all those juicy unsafe Node modules that are part of the Electron package deal. PWAs are great, don't get me wrong. Still a big API gap from Web to native (https://developer.chrome.com/native-client/migration …).
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We've been busy (and continue to be) adding capabilities to the real, standards-based platform. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Me too, I'm still betting on the Web -- but (to return to upthread topic) it'll take longer than Electron apps have to get secure :-|.
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How feasible would it be to build an Electron (Proton?) on Go? Presumably more secure with a decent standard library to boot. Or is that just madness?
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