It also doesn't hurt that the WHATWG is a community organization, with contributions open to anyone.
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Bottom line: The W3C has lost the moral authority on this long ago, and it was only a matter of time until the WHATWG got its IP story enough in order for the web browsers to cut themselves loose from the bureaucracy and misplaced priorities of the W3C.
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I say all of that with a great appreciation for the historical work done by the W3C, and the continued work the CSS working group does inside of the W3C.
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CSSWG is the major thing justifying the W3C at this point, unfortunately. :/ No particular plans to change that, either; we're trucking along just fine.
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Well, CSSWG, Service Worker WG, Web Audio WG, and the very active Community Groups (WICG, RICG, etc.). Lots going on.
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Exactly. And there's nothing inconsistent about saying we get lots of value out of many W3C projects, just not all of them. This is engineering not politics - we don't have to pick a party and hold the line...
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Right, and from an engineering perspective, there is no reason for W3C to be publishing forked WHATWG specs.
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Speaking only for myself, how can a standard pretend to matter if nobody implements it? Of course, it's nice to have community feedback; but at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what ships to users. Implementors will always have the most influence in spec work.
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It can still matter for IPR reasons if it mostly matches implementations. But given two specs with decent IP and governance policies, the one that better matches implementations is clearly the more valuable.
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It's also valuable for historical DOM to have the IP assurance chain. It helps all implementers.
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