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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Jonathan Kingston‏ @KingstonTime 8 Apr 2018
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      It's still pretty interesting that they are indexing and treating PWAs as discoverable hybrid apps without submission though.

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    2. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 8 Apr 2018
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      It just seems like a way of increasing the number of apps in the Windows Store without requiring developer submission, by crawling the web for app manifests, but then embracing and extending the web platform with proprietary APIs.

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    3. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bfrancis @KingstonTime and

      There's nothing wrong with creating a directory of web apps, but turning them into packaged apps with proprietary APIs which have to be installed from a central store feels like the antithesis of Progressive Web Apps.

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    4. Jonathan Kingston‏ @KingstonTime 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bfrancis @nekrtemplar and

      I'm interested if updates happen the same or of windows will be delivering stale content.

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    5. Arthur Stolyar‏ @nekrtemplar 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @KingstonTime @bfrancis and

      They don't package anything in fact. It isn't like FxOS apps. What they package is just the URL. Updates happen the same way through ServiceWorker. Model is the same as Twitter packaged their PWA to Android via Cordova. Nobody said it's bad then

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    6. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @nekrtemplar @KingstonTime and

      I'm not saying it's "bad" to create a hybrid app. Just questioning whether the term PWA really applies to a packaged app installed from an app store which has access to non-standard OS APIs.

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    7. Arthur Stolyar‏ @nekrtemplar 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bfrancis @KingstonTime and

      As I see it, the only difference between WebAPK and this model is access to non-standard OS APIs. But yeah, it isn't clear if it's good or bad. I would prefer standard APIs myself too.

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    8. Kyle Pflug‏ @kylealden 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @nekrtemplar @bfrancis and

      We started with this packaged model via the Store, but do intend to provide an install-from-browser experience. WinRT access from web apps has been part of the Windows app platform via HWAs - it would extremely odd for PWAs to be a regression from that principle.

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    9. Kyle Pflug‏ @kylealden 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @kylealden @nekrtemplar and

      That said, like any device integration, OS APIs should be an enhancement - this is something we'll be emphasizing at Build. A good example is the Twitter PWA, which calls the WinRT store ratings dialog from the PWA when it's installed on Windows.

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    10. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @kylealden @nekrtemplar and

      I don't want to be overly negative because I'm genuinely excited about Microsoft and Apple embracing Web App Manifest and Service Workers after years of evolving towards where we are now. But what you're describing sounds exactly like "embrace and extend" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish …

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bfrancis @kylealden and

      I look forward to Mozilla's pure Desktop PWA support and associated store!

      11:35 AM - 10 Apr 2018
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        1. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 10 Apr 2018
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          Maybe @andreasbovens can make that happen? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1407202 … In the meantime, here's my @webianproject prototype.pic.twitter.com/3M2B9Nzrzc

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