Today I realized (with @littlecalculist) that the web is AWESOME at dealing with low-disk-space situations (or just generally phones with little disk space).
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Replying to @wycats
To me it feels of a piece with the MP3’s (organize my folders) => iTunes (manage my local collection for me) => Spotify (manage local/remote for me) spectrum. As a platform that generally requires manual curation of local storage, apps feel line a major productivity regression.
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Replying to @littlecalculist
On the other hand, for people with a lot of "hard-offline" situations, the ability to "set up" for offline is important, and automatic management works less good for that situation. I think the web needs a "Keep/Install" mode for that situation.
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Replying to @wycats @littlecalculist
That's PWA install + https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/instant-and-offline/web-storage/offline-for-pwa …
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At the limit, eviction still possible, but combined with UI changes, much less likely
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Replying to @slightlylate @littlecalculist
I think this is roughly right for "web apps" (user agent specified limits, not many specified guarantees), but I think you still want something more guaranteed via something that looks like app installs. On balance, this situation is still great though, and best in class!
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Yeah, those UI changes are important. If I have "installed" an app, I want my browser/OS to pop-up a notification instead of unilaterally deleting it: this app has reached its 50MB quota, do you want to increase the quota or clear all stored data?
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We (silently?) killed the 50mb thing a long, long time ago. @inexorabletash et. al. have been busy upping limits.
Chrome has also made UI changes for apps that achieve persistence: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/StorageManager …
https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2016/06/persistent-storage …
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Replying to @slightlylate
I'm not sure I like the idea (as a user) of just upping storage limits for any old website I visit. But the rules for persistent storage sound good. Automatically persist for installed apps, and also have an option for the author to request persistence separately.
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