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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @MSEdgeDev @tomayac

      Why are these considered PWAs? How is a packaged app from a store which wraps a website in a weview and has access to non-standard native APIs in a privileged context not just a hybrid app?

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    2. Arthur Stolyar‏ @nekrtemplar 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bfrancis @slightlylate and

      Well, if it's the same website which can be accessed by the url, which can be added to home screen on Android/iOS via manifest, then why not?

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    3. Jonathan Kingston‏ @KingstonTime 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @nekrtemplar @bfrancis and

      Windows even seems to call them hybrid apps. It's better than non web at all certainly but it's a totally different security model for a start.

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    4. Jonathan Kingston‏ @KingstonTime 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @KingstonTime @nekrtemplar and

      It's still pretty interesting that they are indexing and treating PWAs as discoverable hybrid apps without submission though.

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    5. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @KingstonTime @nekrtemplar and

      It just seems like a way of increasing the number of apps in the Windows Store without requiring developer submission, by crawling the web for app manifests, but then embracing and extending the web platform with proprietary APIs.

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    6. Ben Francis‏ @bfrancis 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bfrancis @KingstonTime and

      There's nothing wrong with creating a directory of web apps, but turning them into packaged apps with proprietary APIs which have to be installed from a central store feels like the antithesis of Progressive Web Apps.

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    7. Jonathan Kingston‏ @KingstonTime 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @bfrancis @nekrtemplar and

      I'm interested if updates happen the same or of windows will be delivering stale content.

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    8. Jonathan Kingston‏ @KingstonTime 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @KingstonTime @bfrancis and

      Like Firefox OS was more proprietary but submissions were done by developers. Crawling to turn into hybrid does raise different concerns certainly

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @KingstonTime @bfrancis and

      Windows Store listings have a "claim" step. They aren't automatically displayed from crawl results.

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    10. drewzie‏ @drewzie 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @KingstonTime and

      Are there any other requirements other than claiming? I notice ASOS and Men's Warehouse only have manifests, but not service workers or other attributes I would expect from a PWA (like HTTPs).

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @drewzie @KingstonTime and

      Good question for @MSEdgeDev! My hope (and understanding) was that they'd keep the same high quality bar that Chrome sets.

      4:35 PM - 8 Apr 2018
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        1. Thomas Steiner‏ @tomayac 9 Apr 2018
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          Thomas Steiner Retweeted Patrick Kettner

          Most questions are answered in the blog post (core bits in https://twitter.com/tomayac/status/983428370431168512 …), & @wycats, @patrickkettner clarified they just update by loading a URL (https://twitter.com/patrickkettner/status/983177284558307329?s=21 …). IMHO HTTPS must be a must.

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          Patrick Kettner @patrickkettner
          Replying to @wycats @slightlylate and 2 others
          They are hosted web apps, in UWP speak. In short, they are loading a URL. So it'll update one the site has been updated
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