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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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      But shipping both was painful; not somethign we want to repeat either! We learned a lot from the experience and have built a whole set of tools and processes to ensure we don't repeat the pain...

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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      For example, we're committed to getting developer feedback without polluting the ecosystem, so we built the Origin Trials system are are using it heavily: https://www.chromium.org/blink/origin-trials …

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    3. Alan Stearns‏ @alanstearns 27 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @AmeliasBrain and

      Except that this thread is about new v0 features you've shipped.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @alanstearns @AmeliasBrain and

      After running Origin Trials and gathering lots of developer feedback, yes! Leadership requires a leader.

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    5. Greg Whitworth‏ @gregwhitworth 27 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @alanstearns and

      While that all sounds good, looking through the trials I'm not seeing any Houdini related items. Which leads to my next question based on your premise, which authors have tested this and provided the feedback to deem it safe to ship?https://github.com/GoogleChrome/OriginTrials/blob/gh-pages/completed-trials.md … https://github.com/GoogleChrome/OriginTrials/blob/gh-pages/available-trials.md …

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    6. Amelia Bellamy-Royds‏ @AmeliasBrain 27 Mar 2018
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      Yeah, I don't think Houdini features ever used the Origin Trials system, they used the Experimental Features flag. So there were experimental sites, by devs for devs, like https://lab.iamvdo.me/houdini/ , but not production-size tests.

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    7. Greg Whitworth‏ @gregwhitworth 27 Mar 2018
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      yep I'm aware of that one - I was more curious to the feedback aspect since none of them are production versions. At any rate, I'm not too worried about the ones that have currently shipped - but appreciate and respect your hesitancy. The layout API, I have more reservations.

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    8. Surma‏ @DasSurma 27 Mar 2018
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      Fwiw, AW will be going to a proper OT. I think Typed OM is kind of a special case as it is a building block for all the other ones. (Layout should defo go to OT as well)

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    9. Greg Whitworth‏ @gregwhitworth 27 Mar 2018
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      yeah - please don't take my comment in a bad tone as I appreciate the concern presented. That said, having been in the meetings for the ones you have currently shipped, I feel that most concerns from other impls have been taken into consideration.

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    10. Greg Whitworth‏ @gregwhitworth 27 Mar 2018
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      to @AmeliasBrain point though, we haven't begun implementing them though - so - for all I know we'll find an annoying issue and we'll be SOL.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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      A great reason to implement early and often ;-)

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        1. Greg Whitworth‏ @gregwhitworth 27 Mar 2018
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          it's not from a lack of desire, just the reality

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