Electron uses Chromium. I don’t think it’s a good idea to build things that only work in one browser.
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Agreed. But I think you can’t expect all browsers to jump on this right away. The plan is to implement a lot of Houdini in Chrome and have developers show-case the power (and necessity) of Houdini. The rest will follow.
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I disagree. There's a reason the W3C policy is that no spec is stable until there are two independent implementations. Browser devs can make unconscious assumptions that aren't specified. Chrome shouldn't unflag until there are others. Don't want another web components v0 vs v1.
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Replying to @AmeliasBrain @DasSurma and
The WC experience was indeed painful, but it's important to understand why. First, while we weren't able to develop our own engine (pre-fork), we had to try to convince others of the value of components without the ability to _show_. Predictably (in retrospect), then went poorly.
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Replying to @slightlylate @AmeliasBrain and
Next, we kept asking other browser vendors to join us and help evaluate the designs...and we got a lot of crickets in response. It was only _after_ we shipped V0 and developers showed interest that others came back to the table (culminating in V1).
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Replying to @slightlylate @AmeliasBrain and
But shipping both was painful; not somethign we want to repeat either! We learned a lot from the experience and have built a whole set of tools and processes to ensure we don't repeat the pain...
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Replying to @slightlylate @AmeliasBrain and
For example, we're committed to getting developer feedback without polluting the ecosystem, so we built the Origin Trials system are are using it heavily: https://www.chromium.org/blink/origin-trials …
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Replying to @slightlylate @AmeliasBrain and
Except that this thread is about new v0 features you've shipped.
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Replying to @alanstearns @AmeliasBrain and
After running Origin Trials and gathering lots of developer feedback, yes! Leadership requires a leader.
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Developer feedback is important, but still doesn't address the lack of other implementer experience. I mean, I love Houdini & want it to come sooner not later. But I'm really worried that all the movement is coming from one browser team.
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That sounds like a great thing to bring up with the folks setting the roadmaps for those teams! We'd love to see other browsers leading here.
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