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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Surma‏ @DasSurma 27 Mar 2018
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      OOOOooh 2 green squares on https://ishoudinireadyyet.com/ . Houdini is coming along nicely.pic.twitter.com/dEUfRDZK8x

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    2. Zoë Bijl‏ @ZoeBijl 27 Mar 2018
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      Not so much in anything that’s not Chrome though :(

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    3. rpgmorpheus@gmail.com‏ @ZeeCoder 27 Mar 2018
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      Still great when you control the user agent.

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    4. Zoë Bijl‏ @ZoeBijl 27 Mar 2018
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      What do you mean?

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    5. rpgmorpheus@gmail.com‏ @ZeeCoder 27 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @ZoeBijl @MichielBijl @DasSurma

      for example if you have products you know that will use Chrome for sure, then you can take advantage of the cutting edge. Take electron as an example.

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    6. Zoë Bijl‏ @ZoeBijl 27 Mar 2018
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      Electron uses Chromium. I don’t think it’s a good idea to build things that only work in one browser.

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    7. Surma‏ @DasSurma 27 Mar 2018
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      Agreed. But I think you can’t expect all browsers to jump on this right away. The plan is to implement a lot of Houdini in Chrome and have developers show-case the power (and necessity) of Houdini. The rest will follow.

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    8. Amelia Bellamy-Royds‏ @AmeliasBrain 27 Mar 2018
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      I disagree. There's a reason the W3C policy is that no spec is stable until there are two independent implementations. Browser devs can make unconscious assumptions that aren't specified. Chrome shouldn't unflag until there are others. Don't want another web components v0 vs v1.

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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      The WC experience was indeed painful, but it's important to understand why. First, while we weren't able to develop our own engine (pre-fork), we had to try to convince others of the value of components without the ability to _show_. Predictably (in retrospect), then went poorly.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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      Next, we kept asking other browser vendors to join us and help evaluate the designs...and we got a lot of crickets in response. It was only _after_ we shipped V0 and developers showed interest that others came back to the table (culminating in V1).

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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          But shipping both was painful; not somethign we want to repeat either! We learned a lot from the experience and have built a whole set of tools and processes to ensure we don't repeat the pain...

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 27 Mar 2018
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          For example, we're committed to getting developer feedback without polluting the ecosystem, so we built the Origin Trials system are are using it heavily: https://www.chromium.org/blink/origin-trials …

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        1. Sam Grace Sneddon  🏳️‍🌈 (they/them)‏ @gsnedders 27 Mar 2018
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          That frequently happens though, and it's important to not end up too far ahead of the rest of the market, because that's bad for the marketplace. That said, I think with origin trials I think we're getting better at letting developers experiment without truly shipping.

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