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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 25 Mar 2018
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      The sad reality is that I don't. It still fundamentally undermines our ability to deliver a more capable-yet-privacy-preserving web, tho.

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 25 Mar 2018
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      Most Mozillians I speak with are happy to pretend that the web isn't losing to native, and focus on desktop (where a shrinking fraction of time is being spent). In that (invented) world, it isn't necessary to balance these forces. Problem "solved".

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @andreasgal @slightlylate and

      So I strongly agree with the idea that web needs to standardize these features and believe that failure to do so will eventually constitute an existential threat. That said, calling desktop "irrelevant" is directly causing total stagnation for over a billion real users.

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    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Mar 2018
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      Saying "the web is losing to native" as a blanket statement is too blanket for me. Lots of companies are hungering to put content on the web because of significant (existing! today!) advantages over native.

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Mar 2018
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      The fact that it's a close call is embarrassing to web and something I strongly agree with both of you we should fix, and something Mozilla could be doing more to help with. Sadly, "packaged apps" confused Google and then Mozilla into years of wasted time.

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @wycats @andreasgal and

      Google/Chrome folks seem caught up now. Mozilla: honestly I don't even know how to tell.

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    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @andreasgal @slightlylate and

      React Native is a category error in this conversation. Either we care about the web and want the web to win, or technologies like Java, Kotlin, Swift, Objective C, and yes, JS via things like React Native will win.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 25 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @andreasgal @wycats and

      I (obviously) think it isn't totally lost; but very much losing.

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 25 Mar 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @andreasgal and

          BTW, the way to rebuild is from product/market fit, and *that* means responsible amounts of script because most addressable market is EM.

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        2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Mar 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @andreasgal and

          I think assuming we lost or even are badly losing misses strong advantages on the web that are still driving content to the web. If we think AMP is helping to make the web competitive, we can't also believe that capabilities are the key.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 25 Mar 2018
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          The key to web competitiveness is its instant-ness in drive-by scenarios. Native is perceived to have better "engagement" and that's the area we need to do better at, but frictionless sharing is how the web has an advantage. And people are still flocking to those advantages.

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