One thing my job hunt taught me so far is that React is all over the place (surprise!), except at large companies that have in-house front-end teams working on their own sites. Those companies prefer vanilla JS over frameworks. Interesting, isn't it?
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Replying to @StephenEvermore
I have no great faith in the Market as an objective arbitrator, I must admit. What we'd have to compare is two very similar sites, one created with frameworks and one without, and see which one performs better - also in the sense of page speed, which hugely impacts conversions.
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I have this data *in spades*. Not looking good for the folks who blindly hire for framework skills.
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Any chance any of that data might be opened in the future? That would, like, really help. Not that you didn't know that already.
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Generally I see it in consultation with sites pre-launch or early in their process; don't want to shame teams.
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@stubbornella, I don't see framework use link with "top talent"; it's nuanced.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Specifically, I see a strongly bi-modal distribution. A tiny fraction are amazing and would thrive w/ any toolchain...
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...those teams adopt FWs but also take them apart and put them back together in leaner, meaner configurations.
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Those teams also tend to have a bias toward less-opinionated stacks (because rebuilding/reconfiguration).
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For the other side of the distribution, those choices are *toxic*. And that's basically everyone.
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Most folks aren't using frameworks as an accelerant to what they know they wanted, they're using them as a level-up. Access to a higher tier
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...but they don't know what they don't know, so when the community leaves things as an exercise to the reader, it's pure perf/UX
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*this is nearly every app I trace* Opinionated stacks are better for nearly all, but not "cool".
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