built-in elements are a bit of a can of worms imo, but I can wrap my rain around generic custom elements that mimic the native ones
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Replying to @notwaldorf @rob_dodson and
That's what I'm getting at kind of. How would they need to be different to not be a can of worms? How could custom elements become standard?
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Replying to @sundress @notwaldorf and
Exactly! They can't. The Web will fragment into a billion <bigco-select>s
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Replying to @prushforth @sundress and
This is part of the benefit (in aggregate) of web components. We're *already* in this state, it's just all hidden in script.
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Replying to @slightlylate @prushforth and
...what WC change about the situation is that we'll be able to survey the web and see which components are commonly used.
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Replying to @slightlylate @sundress and
When you do that survey, will bigco-map > other-bigco-map lead you to conclude we should standardize bigco-map? Wrong conclusion.
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Replying to @prushforth @slightlylate and
Unless bigco map was itself a proposal, that's not going to happen. But we can survey/study them & they're not hidden.
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Replying to @briankardell @prushforth and
Exactly. A primary reason to require the "-" in element names was to preserve the ability to eventually add something like <map> as we learn
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Replying to @slightlylate @briankardell and
The standards process, today, is largely evidence-free. JS and markup communities talk past each other, rarely intersect in observable way.
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Replying to @slightlylate @briankardell and
...and to the extent that everyone phrases their "please make me as map" request as `makeMap()` and not `<web-map>`, we can't observe
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What I'm saying here is that the bad world you're worried about is *already here*. WC allow us, from standards side, to chart path back.
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Replying to @slightlylate @briankardell and
I give that a big "maybe", Alex, per my comment about bigco-map.
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Replying to @prushforth @slightlylate and
which do you mean: "maybe the bad world is already here" "maybe WC allows us to do that" "maybe we actually will do that" ..something else ?
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