Fixing styling in the built-ins is always going to be painful until/unless they come with standardized shadow DOM entrypoints.
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Replying to @slightlylate @brucel and
I'm not concerned about built ins. I want reusable custom elements that don't have the same styling issues as built ins do today.
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Replying to @sundress @slightlylate and
And I think we need to be intentional about the styling part to get there.
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Replying to @sundress @slightlylate and
My hope is shadow parts gets us at least further down the road https://tabatkins.github.io/specs/css-shadow-parts/ …
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Replying to @rob_dodson @sundress and
from what I've seen, part/theme shoooould cover most styling needs we've had. can't wait to play with it
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Replying to @notwaldorf @rob_dodson and
Would love to see a fully fleshed out example, even non working, to show the ideal end state!
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Replying to @sundress @notwaldorf and
i.e. Imagine this worked for built in elements and we didn't have this pain, but could make them look like anything: how would it work?
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Replying to @sundress @rob_dodson and
built-in elements are a bit of a can of worms imo, but I can wrap my rain around generic custom elements that mimic the native ones
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Replying to @notwaldorf @rob_dodson and
That's what I'm getting at kind of. How would they need to be different to not be a can of worms? How could custom elements become standard?
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Replying to @sundress @notwaldorf and
Exactly! They can't. The Web will fragment into a billion <bigco-select>s
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This is part of the benefit (in aggregate) of web components. We're *already* in this state, it's just all hidden in script.
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Replying to @slightlylate @prushforth and
...what WC change about the situation is that we'll be able to survey the web and see which components are commonly used.
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Replying to @slightlylate @sundress and
When you do that survey, will bigco-map > other-bigco-map lead you to conclude we should standardize bigco-map? Wrong conclusion.
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