That would let developers actually restyle the internals. That means standardizing what those internals look like.
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Replying to @rob_dodson @prushforth and
That's the conclusion I'm arriving at, too. But that's a formidable challenge, and involves speccing UI which browser vendors hate
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Replying to @brucel @rob_dodson and
I'm somewhat more optimistic about a related project: de-composing all the behavior of the built-in elements into reusable mixins.
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Replying to @brucel @rob_dodson and
Nope. Have discussed at TAG, but it's a huge undertaking.
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Replying to @slightlylate @brucel and
I think we need to come up with a good story for styling as well - if everything is jammed into shadow dom by default we end up at square 1
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Replying to @sundress @slightlylate and
So need to figure out how theming works and maybe reify that as well?
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My approach here would be the same: smuggle all the useful contracts out of the built-ins until such time as we can explain all the behavior
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Replying to @slightlylate @brucel and
I don't think a good styling story currently exists? What good bits are you referring to?
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Oh, styling isn't great and probably can't be fixed until last. But we can make re-building your own <select>-alike painless.
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Fixing styling in the built-ins is always going to be painful until/unless they come with standardized shadow DOM entrypoints.
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Replying to @slightlylate @brucel and
I'm not concerned about built ins. I want reusable custom elements that don't have the same styling issues as built ins do today.
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Replying to @sundress @slightlylate and
And I think we need to be intentional about the styling part to get there.
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