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Alex Russell
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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Jun 2017
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      I find that definitions that stretch beyond utility as UI (first and foremost) generally end up in the weeds; data is a good example.

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    2. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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      As I get older, the more I think definitions only have value within a particular frame of reference or interest community

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    3. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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      "This is a useful definition for this thing to be used as a shorthand within this particular community but has only overlaps with others"

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Jun 2017
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      If the argument is that some small communities use language in ways that others don't understand or recognize...sure?

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    5. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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      I'm more saying that a detailed ur-definition to rule them all often doesn't work because the semantics are more cloud like than point like

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    6. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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      There's an impressionistic nature to most words in tech that conveys a lot of meanings with clear and significant overlaps.

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    7. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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      The extreme example is something like Web 2.0 which signified a whole range of things to different people.

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    8. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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      There was still a "web 2.0"-ness that people would recognize but in the weeds, there would be massive disagreements.

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Jun 2017
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      Again, most of that was anchored to better UI. I realize that makes me a heretic, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    10. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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      You are also quite focused on making web browsers, so it's possible your focus on UI is related to that (not that you're wrong, though)

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Jun 2017
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      Yes, my biases are absolutely showing although I'd have expected a web of data disconnected from UI to take off by now if it were possible.

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Jun 2017
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          ...which leads to one of my great disappointments with the browser and webdev communities: such narrow thinking about data problems.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Jun 2017
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          It's 2017 and you still need gobs of JS to populate a <table> from a CSV file. WTF?

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        2.  🌸 Trevor Flowers  🌸‏ @TrevorFSmith 18 Jun 2017
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          There are data sets and APIs that survived because they were divorced from a specific UI, like those from NOAA and USGS.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Jun 2017
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          Those specific datasets survived because of engaged public servants and thoughtful regulation.

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        2. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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          I think the UI thing is a bit of a red herring. I mean, sure, a core part of the web is the ability to see, link to and reference data

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        3. Tom Coates‏Verified account @tomcoates 18 Jun 2017
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          But arguing for the presence of a UI does not mean the UI defines the edges of what the web can be.

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