And sure, understand the goal with these standards is to compete with native apps. Except the consent and signing model is not present...
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Users have expectations about what a web page is and it's not persistent code that can run without the site open.
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"Allow notifications" or "Allow push" definitely doesn't imply or communicate that, and there's another big difference from Android and iOS.
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Android and iOS directly present the installed apps to the user. It's front and centre. They explicitly install, and see which are there.
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If you list service workers on new tab page, users can drag them to a trash bin and there's a prompt to install, then I have no complaints.
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Service Workers are not a user concept. Push notifications are, so we enable management of *those*.
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Except you don't ask users for consent for the security and privacy implications, you ask them for consent to display notifications.
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You also don't acquire their ongoing consent, since there isn't a prominent list of every app that's doing this with an easy way to remove.
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It's *right in your face* when you get a notification. Literally under your thumb. Every time.
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The fact that there's an app running is in no way clear.
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Do you mean except for the fact that we force the site to show a notification (or show one on it's behalf)?
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