Demo happened to show off some other cool tech which helps users of the framework serve faster (a good thing!)...but oy. Must do better.
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Replying to @slightlylate @ken_wheeler and
still, measuring hello world apps are next to useless. It'll be 100kb if FW is 100kb. 50kb if FW is 50kb.
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Replying to @intelligibabble @slightlylate and
100k on an emerging market phone is 1 -> 3 seconds of parse and compile time as Alex said, it leaves you with very little room
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Replying to @samccone @intelligibabble and
I like to think of the hello world app as - w/ nothing how fast can we be? It is a good baseline to drive down as any wins are wins for all
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Replying to @samccone @slightlylate and
i guess this is where i disagree. "w/ nothing how fast can we be?" is like asking "is /dev/null web scale?"
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Replying to @intelligibabble @samccone and
This isn't what I focus on, btw. When working with partners we analyse real apps. Hard to do here in public unless people ask.
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Replying to @slightlylate @samccone and
I respect this. And i appreciate the work you do w/ partners. I'm only worried that the public message is overly focused on FW size
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Replying to @intelligibabble @samccone and
A fair point, though consider that (today) those who are perf conscious enough to chose better starting points also value the rest.
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Replying to @slightlylate @samccone and
yeah but also consider that people might just choose preact/vue/inferno and think "i'm in the clear" and end up with a 1MB+ bundle anyway
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But that'll be a nice problem to have. And regardless, those folks will have started with more headroom, pushing back the problem.
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Replying to @slightlylate @intelligibabble and
I think the message is more "let's make sure frameworks are not preventing us from achieving these targets".
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