The framework they chose, plus router. The most popular tools are slow-by-default today, which is why I promote tools that aren't.
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Replying to @slightlylate @ken_wheeler and
Demo happened to show off some other cool tech which helps users of the framework serve faster (a good thing!)...but oy. Must do better.
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Replying to @slightlylate @ken_wheeler and
still, measuring hello world apps are next to useless. It'll be 100kb if FW is 100kb. 50kb if FW is 50kb.
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Replying to @intelligibabble @slightlylate and
once you get into the Real App territory, this stuff starts to be marginal. There are problems of bloat in both cases,
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Replying to @intelligibabble @slightlylate and
but i'm tired of hearing the extra 30k that preact is going to save me when i'm seeing real companies like Airbnb produce 2MB+ bundles
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Replying to @intelligibabble @slightlylate and
I think the real wins will come from FW and tools providing real patterns to prevent that bloat but also build complex apps
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Replying to @intelligibabble @ken_wheeler and
We agree! I'm worried that most of these popular tools are leaving reasonable performance as an exercise to the reader.
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Replying to @slightlylate @ken_wheeler and
totally. I just don't think that a "hello world app being 100kb" is the problem. I mean, that's not great if your end goal is hello world
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Replying to @intelligibabble @ken_wheeler and
100k of FW leaves you up against the wall. Very little headroom for app code. If you start slow, you almost always stay there.
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Replying to @slightlylate @intelligibabble and
if you're aiming to get interactive fast & parse/exec of your FW is high it's squeezing _your_ app code's budget for success to the brink.1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
Also, if you're dependant on script for interactivity (or render), then you've delayed progress until it finishes. Not the case w/ images.
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Replying to @slightlylate @addyosmani and
ALSO that 100k 1 - 3 second parse/compile time locks the main thread and blocks any other network resource parsing!
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Replying to @samccone @slightlylate and
Something I don't hear enough is talking about size of CSS impacting pages, Sammy do you have any references you can share.
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