Web Components -- incl AMP vocabulary -- begin to force the question. If something really *is* common & we can prove it, why not standard?
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Replying to @slightlylate @seldo
Obviously the form of the built-in will change vs. whatever's in AMP or any other library, but now that's an argument for data to help solve
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Replying to @slightlylate @seldo
So this isn't so much "bizzaro HTML" as it is what we were doing anyway out in script, but exposed to markup, which helps us learn faster
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Replying to @slightlylate
So another way to say "the JS ecosystem ignores markup" is to say that this markup-based approach is counterweight to a JS-based ecosystem.
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Replying to @seldo @slightlylate
I'm receptive to that. The joy and accessibility of the web as a platform comes from all the stuff you can do before you resort to JS.
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Replying to @seldo @slightlylate
The part that gives me squicks is folding this work into AMP, which has specific design goals centered around making Google more money.
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Replying to @seldo @slightlylate
If Chrome were throwing a bunch of new tags into HTML that turned common JS framework idioms into tags, I would be 100% on board with that.
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Replying to @seldo
REALLY? I'd loathe that. We'd guess badly at what people really need.
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Replying to @slightlylate
I think AMP is already making those guesses and doing so in mainstream HTML would not make those guesses any less accurate.
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Replying to @seldo
I think you are giving the historical outcomes of the standards process FAARRR too much credit. HTML5 is not *good*, but bits are brilliant.
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Specifically the bits that focus on interop between existing, undocumented systems. Those bits are grounded and therefore excellent.
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Replying to @slightlylate @seldo
But the bits that were more speculative? <main>, <section>, <article>? Uggh.
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Replying to @slightlylate @seldo
And smart, competent people argued about them for years! The reality is we learn best from experience.
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