There are other problems on mobile, some of them are larger, but we can't *even get to them* until the default toolchain is fixed.
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It's overdue for all the desktop-derived frameworks. We need disclaimers until we get good-by-default patterns. Too many teams getting hurt.
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...cause what I'm seeing is hardworking, thoughtful people taking the "way you build things today" and failing. Over and over. It's not OK.
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Some people think I'm angry. I'm not angry, I'm *heartbroken*. Good people trying to do well by their users have been sold up the creek.
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...and yes, devtools have their (huge) portion of the blame. We'll agree infinitely. But this is a crisis. Crisis response is required.
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So what can we do to mitigate the problem? Given that both Preact and Inferno are way faster drop-in replacements, it might
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Is true that dropping those in solves the issues that
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From what we've seen it has no significant impact on start up time which I understand is the biggest issue.
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: startup on slow phones/networks is dominated by code size. React itself might be fine (if marginal); ecosystem isn't.
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so what you are saying is that problem seems to be in the webpack space?
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: it's a lack of integration. Webpack can pass buck to babel same way react can to webpack. Defaults matter.
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