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Alex Russell
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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      The biggest problem facing web standards is the lack of consistency and compatibility between standards.

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    2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      This isn't a problem in standards from ECMA/TC39, at least not that I've seen. But the W3C & WHATWG standards are a mess.

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    3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      There's about a half dozen stream-like things, all incompatible with one another. Only one of these supports back-pressure.

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    4. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      There's a push in the W3C to conform to WebIDL, an interface description language that looks terrible and can't entirely be expressed in JS.

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    5. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      Audio in the browser: Media elements, Web Audio, and WebRTC MediaStream. All were clearly written by people who didn't speak to each other.

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    6. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      At least part of the problem is that two bodies, WHATWG and W3C are writing and forking each others standards.

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    7. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      Both organizations aren't even legal entities: WHATWG is a mailing list and W3C is a cross licensing deal between universities.

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    8. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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      So how do you even address structural problems when there isn't a consistent structure?

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Jan 2017
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      : there is, at some level. @w3ctag review is a part of the Blink launch process

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      : what I'll say abt "consistency" is that big platforms are big. Structure and review critical. Backfilling that (see Promises)

      7:25 PM - 13 Jan 2017
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        2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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          when new work lands in TC39 there's a process that thinks about them in the context of everything that is already there.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Jan 2017
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          : that's what @w3ctag review does for everything else. You're welcome ;-)

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        2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 13 Jan 2017
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          how would we even start to add that to W3C / WHATWG?

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Jan 2017
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          : already done. Blink process requires TAG review. Has had effect of most feature teams reaching out

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        1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Jan 2017
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          : Promises were nominally a TC39 joint, but @w3ctag has driven them into the storm pervasively, one spec review at a time

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