: my critique isn't that FWs are that large (although most *are* too big), it's that the patterns they encourage make sites slow
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: the default way people use, e.g. React, is to bundle the whole app into a single JS file. This is a recipe for slowness.
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Interesting and unfortunate. No matter if you're using Webpack or SystemJS, code splitting is so easy these days :\
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: ...but that's not what the starter guides, default CLI options, etc. lead the developer to do.
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Ie, I'm shocked people would take intro boilerplate and bundle a whole app into 1 file for prod - maybe docs authors are too?
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: what I see is that almost everyone ships their v1 as a single JS file and single CSS file.
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: yes. And I am terrified. Every day is a fresh performance nightmare crossing my desk.
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: so I'm at a standards meeting this week and haven't traced any sites today...so only 2 apps profiled thus far this week.
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: both launched, live experiences. Both in emerging markets. Both from big brands.
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: First site: 3.1MB total xfer, ~250K of JS gzipped, ~850K unzipped. Ignoring the 1MB background image, still unusable on mobile.
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: guess what you get for ~850K of JS? A form that asks for your location. And a menu.
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That's (literally) unbelievable. Not saying you're lying, obv, but ... did you look at _how_ they managed to achieve that?
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