: well, follow me here. I wound up implementing CSS rounded corners (w/ @eae). Major reduction in *element count* resulted.
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: now we either had duplication in code or had to shift out something that was used pervasively.
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: in retrospect, the decision looks easy. More browsers every year that support rounded corners.
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: but change in architecture allowed code removal + node removal. Nearly linear speedup.
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well I’m not denying that FWs today can potentially cause friction in adoption of new primitives
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but 1. that’s not the intention of FW authors; 2. FWs are still a net improvement vs. old platform sans new primitives
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: right. What I'm getting at is that frameworks can create "overhang". Major un-banked opportunities to go faster.
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that is true, but the overly negative narratives against FWs feel like placing all the blames on FW authors
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: FW authors are in a privileged position. Default FW choices become the most-common outcomes for apps that adopt them.
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: ...and this isn't really in question. It's the value-prop of frameworks viewed from a different angle.
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: *so*, the negativity here isn't meant to say that FWs are bad, but we need to make good UI, and today that's not happening.
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: we've got productive developers who feel great about themselves and a bunch of services that don't work in EM.
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