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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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      : huh? You can use each of the pieces independently, and it absolutely interoperates. If your FW genereates DOM, it can use WC.

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    2. Paul Lewis‏ @aerotwist 28 Aug 2016
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      I've never got this particular objection. Instead of a framework generating divs it makes WCs. No big deal AFAICT.

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    3. Evan You‏ @youyuxi 28 Aug 2016
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      assuming WCs are only intended for leaf nodes or an encapsulation mechanism, yes

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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      : that's up to the WC author. Which makes it an implementation quality issue, not fundamental. /cc @aerotwist

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    5. Evan You‏ @youyuxi 28 Aug 2016
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      the point is, WC as is currently specced does not deliver what it claims to solve, and FWs see little value in

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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      : it's cool. Hopefully your framework can achieve reasonable perf some other way (although I worry). /cc @aerotwist

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    7. Evan You‏ @youyuxi 28 Aug 2016
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      I don’t see where the perf point is.

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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      : 2 related things. First go look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4i0xJnQUzU …

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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      : what I'm seeing is that the build/module/runtime systems of frameworks cause far too much code to be included up-front

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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      : I covered this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5X_Ot-R6lo …

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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      : baaaaascially current build/module/load systems & framework integrations don't load granularly enough, nor cache enough

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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          : the interplay of these things takes a long time to tease out; most frameworks don't own all parts. Farming bits out.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 28 Aug 2016
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          : but when I sit down to trace, e.g., a frameworky app these days, I know what I'm gonna see most times...

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