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Alex Russell
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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      Constantly amazed by the differences in perspective between native app devs and webdevs; particularly re: storage/bandwidth use.

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      Question I get from webdevs: "so is it really OK to download more than the page you're looking at right now? Templates for other sections?"

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      Question I get from native-app devs: "so, I can only store like 50mb or something? How do I get more?" (you can, but you have to ask)

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      ^^^ is why PWAs are, on average, better for for users for _cultural_ reasons Respect for limits is result of managing distribution directly

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      Most PWAs I see are something like 10-100x smaller *by default* than their native app counterparts. And that's w/o loss of functionality.

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      Put another way, PWAs and the web force you to build a _streaming_ version of your app. Native apps can't even see those limits from here.

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    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      So native apps live in a world of negative externality: force users to be sysadmins about expensive resource on the *dev's* behalf.

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      We can talk all day about how slow and bad and abusive adtech is (and oh boy do I have opinions)...but a bit of perspective is in order.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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      Native apps tend to be _terrible_ citizens of constrained devices because native devs only feel size/weight as trailing adoption factor

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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          So the thing about PWAs "taking less space" is both statistically true to an overwhelming degree and also not guaranteed.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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          It's just that it's _likely_ for reasons that most folks don't think about....because most don't think in terms of distribution & funnels.

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        2. Sebastián Beán‏ @sebbean 22 Aug 2016
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          the data that a native app consumes is probably less over time than hitting a website over and over

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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          : this is they key question I'm trying to work on right now. It isn't clear to me that this is true.

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        2. Arthur Stolyar‏ @nekrtemplar 22 Aug 2016
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          Maybe it's render slow, or layout, or JS. I just hate to care about it too much.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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          : I'm seeing massive framework-based bloat in most JS app startup these days. Too much script, too early. Badly loaded.

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Aug 2016
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          : +1000. ^^^ THAT.

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        1. James Drinkwater‏ @drinkynet 22 Aug 2016
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          terrible citizens because they forget who the owner of the device is

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        1. Arthur Stolyar‏ @nekrtemplar 22 Aug 2016
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          Anyway, I wish the web to have better env speed. That's the only critical issue I see today.

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