: now, I'm not saying "things should require JS"; I'm saying "the platform hasn't kept up, JS is how you cope"
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: which means that for some sites -- more than I think a lot of old hands want to admit -- it's reasonable
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: so blanket "things should work without JS" statements are, in my view, not even wrong.
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: govt information/service websites? Hell yes it should work without JS. Some plain documents too.
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this point confuses me . So there's value in it for some important services? But not the sites we use most?
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Replying to @scottjehl @sil
: this is where the religion breaks down: the sites we use most can afford to build multiple versions
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: the economic argument hinges on being price sensitive to dev costs. FB, Google, etc. simply aren't.
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we're talking about an evidence-driven approach to increase resilience that *regularly* helps us all...
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I’ve watched gmail's spinner many times, waiting for js to provide what html should have. It happens a lot.
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Replying to @scottjehl @sil
: ...and you'll have noticed a link on that page to the "plain HTML" version
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: this is what I mean about price sensitivity. It's *insane* for most orgs to build & maintain 2 versions.
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Replying to @slightlylate @scottjehl and
and then to create a new one in Inbox? ;)
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Replying to @dalmaer @slightlylate and
if PWAs are about separate versions, that's a massive leap backwards. The P is meaningless
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