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Alex Russell
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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : take, e.g., http://shop.polymer-project.org 

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : works in scads of browsers, is a commercial(ish) site; the value of "works w/o JS" is measurable in ecommerce

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : and many commerce sites are happy to take a JS dependency.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : it's 2016. Hand-wringing about what happens if JS isn't available is a bit..strange?

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : look at how many blocking requests these sorts of sites do. Their dep chains are already huge

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : now, I'm not saying "things should require JS"; I'm saying "the platform hasn't kept up, JS is how you cope"

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    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : which means that for some sites -- more than I think a lot of old hands want to admit -- it's reasonable

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : so blanket "things should work without JS" statements are, in my view, not even wrong.

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2016
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      : govt information/service websites? Hell yes it should work without JS. Some plain documents too.

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    10. Scott Jehl‏ @scottjehl 4 Jun 2016
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      this point confuses me . So there's value in it for some important services? But not the sites we use most?

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 4 Jun 2016
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      : this is where the religion breaks down: the sites we use most can afford to build multiple versions

      9:13 AM - 4 Jun 2016
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 4 Jun 2016
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          : the economic argument hinges on being price sensitive to dev costs. FB, Google, etc. simply aren't.

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        3. Scott Jehl‏ @scottjehl 4 Jun 2016
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          we're talking about an evidence-driven approach to increase resilience that *regularly* helps us all...

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