2/ This situation forces ORGs to fill InfoSec roles w/ non-security people, we all see this, and these organizations haven't much choice.
@jeremiahg @kragen @dhw : i, for one, welcome good lay as a signal to students that certain skills are worth their time
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@slightlylate i'm not optimistic about that part. the people lenovo is missing are the people who'd've done it anyway.@jeremiahg@dhw -
@slightlylate@jeremiahg@dhw i mean obviously they need normal people who are just making a living too. but they need exceptional people.
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