@slightlylate @aerotwist @brucel I just mean that "just use JS" isn't an answer - we could have *experimented* by using preloader JS, but...
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@slightlylate@aerotwist@brucel ...we'd have to eventually bake something in regardless, because working with the preloader is annoying.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@tabatkins : of course we would, but we'd have a shitload more data about what that thing *should do*. /cc@aerotwist@brucel2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@tabatkins : and wouldn't be left high & dry in the meantime. /cc@aerotwist@brucel1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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The belief that standards bodies will get it right without experiment or data is not even wrong. /cc
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@slightlylate@aerotwist@brucel When people ask "why not JS/CSS?" they're not talking about exploratory experiments.3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@tabatkins : Only shipping code can create progress. Specs only accelerate it, they don't create it. /cc@aerotwist@brucel1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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@slightlylate@tabatkins@aerotwist@brucel To me "Extensible Web" doesn't mean we ship *only* primitives and let JS do the rest1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@slightlylate@tabatkins@aerotwist@brucel It means we ship lower layer primitives *alongside* (or maybe just before) higher layer features2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes -
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@yoavweiss that's absolutely what I hope too. Otherwise, we make the web JS-only.@slightlylate@tabatkins@aerotwist3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@brucel : my goal in making connection between the layers is to bring things *back* to markup.
/cc @yoavweiss @tabatkins @aerotwist
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@slightlylate yup, agree - hence agreeing with@yoavweiss on low-level primitives *and* higher-level (markup) features3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@brucel : the order does matter. We frequently try the high level thing, slowly, at great pain only to get it wrong. /cc@yoavweiss1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes - 4 more replies
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