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    1. Elliott Sprehn‏ @ElliottZ Apr 23
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      Within the confines of the pipeline. They don't mutate the DOM.

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    2. Elliott Sprehn‏ @ElliottZ Apr 23
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      That's what Houdini exposes, the same hooks native elements get (Style, Layout, Paint) with the same kinds of restrictions. Native cannot change the DOM based on style values (like literally, it ASSERTS() in the C++).

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    3. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani Apr 23
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      Houdini needs a massive DX overhaul to be really useful, IMO. It's insanely difficult to have a component register a worklet for its own use. It has to figure out how to load the module, which usually doesn't survive built tooling, pick a name that's sorta private...

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    4. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani Apr 23
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      I don't know of any examples where it's seamlessly usable by a component honestly. Maybe something with a data URL, but that's pretty hell to use too.

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    5. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani Apr 23
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      ...and it pretty much prevents loading dependencies, even if worklets get module support.

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    6. Elliott Sprehn‏ @ElliottZ Apr 23
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      Why does it prevent loading dependencies?

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    7. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani Apr 23
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      no base URL

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    8. Elliott Sprehn‏ @ElliottZ Apr 23
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      What's @bfgeek's recommendation?

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    9. Ian Kilpatrick‏ @bfgeek 22h22 hours ago
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      Just saw this :) Sharing code between workers/worklets is a massive problem for the platform. I tried chewing at that bit, but to no avail. May make it slightly easier w/ loading code via <link> tag? cc/ @flackrw

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    10. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 22h22 hours ago
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      Can we get inline module definitions pretty please? https://gist.github.com/justinfagnani/d26ba99aec5ffc02264907512c082622 … The you could write worker code inline with the main thread code, and imports could work if the referrer URL is the same as the embedding module.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 21h21 hours ago
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      Transferrable, anonymous modules could also work? I really failed at TC39 by not stopping the train on the toxic combination of: - no intrinsic module identifier - lack of anonymous/inline modules But maybe not too late to repair? /cc @_shu

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        2. Shu-yu Guo (郭纾宇)‏ @_shu 20h20 hours ago
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          cool use case for workers. def. aware code transfer highly unergonomic right now. inline modules have also come up in context of bundling, i wonder if there is a unifying syntax and semantics for different use cases? (apologies, don't have the full context on this thread.)

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        3. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 20h20 hours ago
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          I tried to unify in that gist by making the inline module a definition only. It would have to be instantiated somehow to run, in either the main thread or a worker. I assumed you could dynamic import to instantiate locally, like: await import(moduleDef);

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        1. Elliott Sprehn‏ @ElliottZ 19h19 hours ago
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          Yeah the no inline module thing is pretty bad. I also fought against that and failed.

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