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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Tim Kadlec‏ @tkadlec Apr 21
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      New post: The Cost of JavaScript Frameworks https://timkadlec.com/remembers/2020-04-21-the-cost-of-javascript-frameworks/ … Using @HTTPArchive data to get a sense of the performance cost (in both bytes & main thread time) of using various popular frameworks as a starting point Been working on this one for an embarrassingly long time

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    2. Keith J Grant‏ @keithjgrant Apr 23
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      Replying to @tkadlec @HTTPArchive

      Keith J Grant Retweeted Keith J Grant

      A few thoughts in a thread 👇🏻https://twitter.com/keithjgrant/status/1253391645946462209 …

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      Keith J Grant @keithjgrant
      I’m not disagreeing with this article, but there is a degree of correlation/causation that should be mentioned. https://timkadlec.com/remembers/2020-04-21-the-cost-of-javascript-frameworks/ …
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    3. Tim Kadlec‏ @tkadlec Apr 23
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      Thanks, Keith! Super constructive and reasonable feedback. You know this is Twitter, right? ;)

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    4. Tim Kadlec‏ @tkadlec Apr 23
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      I thought including jQuery would be interesting, but I think it just distracted from the point that the data makes pretty clear: current frameworks result in a lot of JS and a lot of main thread time and there's ample room for improvement, both for defaults and restrictions.

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    5. Tim Kadlec‏ @tkadlec Apr 23
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      Replying to @tkadlec @keithjgrant @HTTPArchive

      I mean, ultimately, I think the takeaways are: 1. If you're building a fw, there's a lot of work to do to empower devs to build something that performs well by default. 2. If you're using a fw and you want the site to perform well, then it's going to take some extra work.

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    6. Keith J Grant‏ @keithjgrant Apr 23
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      Yeah I think making the frameworks themselves better (out of the box) is huge.

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    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Apr 23
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      Replying to @keithjgrant @tkadlec @HTTPArchive

      As a former framework author, it's pretty unclear to me that the "folks only use heavy frameworks when lighter ones won't do" causality arrow is even marginally correct. My experience is that folks bring their priors to all tasks.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Apr 23
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      As for slimming the frameworks, I think that has signaling value more than anything. It demonstrates leadership around that being a concern worth centering.

      2:59 PM - 23 Apr 2020
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