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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Apr 19
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      Put differently, the folks who are naturally the regulators and user's advocates have (to my mind) been more-or-less fully captured by the JS-industrial-complex.

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    2. Ishan Anand‏ @ianand Apr 19
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      And your thoughts on AMP?

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Apr 19
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      Replying to @ianand @tomskitomski and

      I wish it was faster.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Apr 19
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      Specifically, it's fast-enough when loaded via the Search Results Page (and other pre-loading viewers) because of a huge pile of ultra-careful end-to-end optimisation which aren't available in the cold-load-from-origin scenarios. So I can't yet recommend it for your own site.

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    5. Ishan Anand‏ @ianand Apr 19
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      Replying to @slightlylate @tomskitomski and

      Yes this is why we cross compile to it (for SERP benefit). But starting to think it’s better in cold start case than leaving devs to tie a perf noose otherwise.

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    6. Ishan Anand‏ @ianand Apr 19
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      The UK site is a good example. It’s not scalable that govt can have a perf engineer like @dracos on every page they publish. AMP compliance is.

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    7. Matthew Somerville‏ @dracos Apr 19
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      I’m not a performance engineer. You don’t need a performance engineer. You don’t need AMP. Server-side is one python script, one bash script, and some PHP. Client-side is some basic chart.js and Leaflet JS and about 20 other lines of JS.

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Apr 19
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      Yep, you've hit on the big lie behind "modern" frontend: it doesn't have to be exotic. Just cut out the JS -- or take it as as constraint that you can't afford more than, say, 50K of it -- and it all tends to work out fine.

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    9. Tor‏ @MoreTechStories Apr 19
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      I agree that people should trim their JS, but this is probably too restrictive to be practical.

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    10. Tor‏ @MoreTechStories Apr 19
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      The pendulum has probably swung too far in allowing large js payloads, justified by developer productivity, but still..

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Apr 19
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      Replying to @MoreTechStories @dracos and

      50k is an eternity of script. You can fit entire apps in that space. It's more than 300k uncompressed!!! Shorter novels have been called "unendingly long".

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        2. Tor‏ @MoreTechStories Apr 19
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          Replying to @slightlylate @dracos and

          I think you're exaggerating slightly with that analogy. 500 pages of pure text requires 1MB 😀So your average 50k novel isn't that long based on that... But I understand your underlying point.

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        3. Tor‏ @MoreTechStories Apr 19
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          That said, no one can accuse me of not caring about web performance. My blog's lighthouse score is attached.pic.twitter.com/lQdokUIzDJ

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