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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Zach Leatherman‏ @zachleat Mar 26
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      Zach Leatherman Retweeted Jeremy Keith

      Lots of vague terms being thrown around in the discussion around Safari’s storage wipe changes, specifically “web application” and “PWA.” @adactio makes an important point: is a PWA by definition required to be installed? Oh my—I hope not.https://twitter.com/adactio/status/1243134169380794368 …

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      Jeremy KeithVerified account @adactio
      Replying to @brucel
      Not true. They aren’t deleting service workers for sites *added to the home screen*. That’s a vanishingly small percentage of progressive web apps. Added to home screen != progressive web app. https://adactio.com/notes/16615 
      4 replies 10 retweets 46 likes
    2. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 26
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      This is kind of where my confusion is as well, I thought this was the P in PWA that Jeremy was actually v keen on? Trying to understand, because it's very, very possible I'm missing a lynchpin bit. It wouldn't be the first time.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Jeremy Keith‏Verified account @adactio Mar 26
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      Replying to @briankardell @zachleat

      Brian, there’s a world of difference between something being a useful enhancement you can add to any website, and something that’s so hobbled as to be not worth your time.https://adactio.com/notes/16622 

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 26
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      вкαя∂εℓℓ Retweeted Alex Russell

      not sure how to explain better what I am confused about, I'm sorry, I swear I am really trying. You saw https://twitter.com/slightlylate/status/1242992825177788417 … in your other thread replies right? Other browsers already seem to have two kinds/v similar qualities in this regard? No?

      вкαя∂εℓℓ added,

      Alex Russell @slightlylate
      Replying to @briankardell @adactio and 3 others
      In Chrome, we use an LRU and evict whole origins. Partial eviction of script-exposed storage is a recipe for confusion.
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    5. Jeremy Keith‏Verified account @adactio Mar 26
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      Replying to @briankardell @zachleat

      I think when I (or someone else) says the word “enhancement” what you hear is “*just* an enhancement”—I think that may be at the heart of your Colombo-like feigned confusion.https://adactio.com/notes/16625 

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 26
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      Replying to @adactio @briankardell @zachleat

      Popping up a bit, a slightly more generous way to read Apple's new policy is that it degrades their (already bad) web storage limits to the point where the _only_ safehaven is installation to the homescreen.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 26
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      Replying to @slightlylate @adactio and

      This is inline with Chrome (et. al.'s) construction of a two-tier system, wherein sites that are installed get "more" in various ways. We've been careful not to break things between these modes, and only hang app-mode enhancements on installation, not basics (like storage).

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 26
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      Replying to @slightlylate @adactio and

      What's different here is that Apple is explicitly making web-in-a-tab non-durable, whereas we've *enhanced* the durability of web-in-a-tab recently.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Ben Lowery  🔥 💪 🐉‏ @blowery Mar 26
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      Replying to @slightlylate @adactio and

      IDB is already essentially broken for appy sites in Safari 13. It counts the transaction log against storage limits, and never truncates the log while a page is running. You will hit the limit if you're open long enough. See https://github.com/blowery/idb-asplode … / https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202137 …

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 26
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      Replying to @blowery @adactio and

      Wut. 🤦

      8:35 AM - 26 Mar 2020
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