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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Dave Rupert‏ @davatron5000 Mar 25
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      Dave Rupert Retweeted Laidlaw

      Need to read up a it more, but Apple's move here to wipe localStorage, IndexedDB, and Service Workers after 7 days seems aggressive and effectively neuters PWAs (as well as SPAs?). I support third-party cookie blocking, but seems like webapps are getting kneecap'd.https://twitter.com/laidlaw/status/1242820467284758529 …

      Dave Rupert added,

      Laidlaw @laidlaw
      Just as PWAs were taking off, a huge unnecessary obstacle blocks the runway... https://ar.al/2020/03/25/apple-just-killed-offline-web-apps-while-purporting-to-protect-your-privacy-why-thats-a-bad-thing-and-why-you-should-care/ … @adactio @davatron5000 @chriscoyier looking forward to your thoughts on this!
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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 25
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      Replying to @davatron5000 @ericlaw

      A reasonable middle ground, given that iOS already puts PWAs into a separate storage container, would be to exempt those installed apps from this. Thoughts, @johnwilander?

      3 replies 4 retweets 15 likes
    3. Jeremy Keith‏Verified account @adactio Mar 25
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      Replying to @slightlylate @davatron5000 and

      I’m trying to find out what/if the time limit on service worker registrations was in Safari before this change to 7 days. Was it a set amount of days? Was it unbounded? @johnwilander? (Does Chrome or Firefox do anything like this?)https://adactio.com/notes/16607 

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    4. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 25
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      Replying to @adactio @slightlylate and

      Maybe an alternative question: when space is low, is some eviction policy applied to whole domains in other browsers, including services workers||cache? How? LRU involved?

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    5. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 25
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      Replying to @briankardell @adactio and

      PS, not a leading question. I genuinely don't know the answer. Ms in a talk a few years ago seemed to imply yes, that was always my understanding but I don't know for a fact what this looks like in practice

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 25
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      Replying to @briankardell @adactio and

      In Chrome, we use an LRU and evict whole origins. Partial eviction of script-exposed storage is a recipe for confusion.

      6:52 PM - 25 Mar 2020
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        2. Ben Kelly‏ @wanderview Mar 25
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          Replying to @slightlylate @briankardell and

          Firefox also atomically evicts whole origins based on lru heuristics.

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        3. Mike Sherov (he/him)  🚀‏ @mikesherov Mar 25
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          Replying to @wanderview @slightlylate and

          Just FYI, the wording is confusing, but this won't affect "installed" PWAs. They have their own container. The rules are circuitous but opening an app on a day counts as a day of use, but using an app resets the counter for that origin. For PWAs it's a counter that resets itself.

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