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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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      Alex it’s somehow strangely reassuring that amidst all this panic and uncertainty you are steadfastly still posting about JavaScript bundle sizes.

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 19
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      I been living with the real-world consequences of entitled SV...behaviour...for a long while now, and it's the moments when it all goes to pot that you can really tell which tech is sustainable. And experience teaches that React+whatever sets you up to fail in this moment.

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    3. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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      For government websites I’m certainly in agreement that static HTML is the way to go. Less sold on the “only serious projects are static” logic.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 19
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      I'm saying something different: it's not about static, it's about reach. Do whatever you can to improve the experience, but *start with reach as the primary consideration*. You can probably afford some JS! But not as much as the JS-industrial-complex wants to sell you.

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    5. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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      Yeah I think I disagree with this, though. Most businesses start off with very few resources. The aim, nearly 100% of the time, is to prove an idea in a extremely limited market. That is largely how it is in the early stage world.

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    6. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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      In the FAANG world, you are totally right. A new intuitive at Google should start with reach as the primary consideration.

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    7. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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      But isn’t that the bubble? Not the startups using React to get a product out?

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 19
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      FANG teams know limits *much* more than the folks buyimg JS-of-the-week. Search has N versions (where N is large) to maximize reach. GMail still maintains a static HTML version, because reach! Startups that buy this shit are dumb. Critical services that adopt it are *dangerous*

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    9. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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      That’s my point. You should have this perspective. It’s important that you do, given what you do.

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    10. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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      A startup testing some idea using React in a single market isn’t dangerous though.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 19
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      As an investor, I cannot express how deeply distressed it makes me to hear of founders who imagine their market is their set of friends/families/colleagues. It's OPP, and those people are ~not drilled into what opens doors, *but your effing job is to see what they don't*

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        2. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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          Most startups don’t fail because of overloaded JS bundles. They fail because they market doesn’t want it. It’s far more bubble-y to tie failure of a startup to its _bundle size_ than to actually choose some overload framework. That’s the irony you don’t see. doubly as an investor

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 19
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          Most startups are unable to attribute failure to any specific cause. Bundle sizes are only a measure of "how much do you punch potential customers before they can access your [world changing] service". Some are worth a long gauntlet!

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 19
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          So you're right, and if the meta point is "most startups deserve to die, not least of all because they had no strategy and no way to test most of the market for fit"...ok. But it's still sad.

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        3. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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          I think you are arguing with yourself here. You know that isn’t what I mean.

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        2. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Mar 19
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          I don’t buy you think that is what I think. Technology companies start small and focused. Are you really going to try and debate that?

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 19
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          Technology companies start trying to solve a problem the best possible way. When you're to ~10 hc, a lot of your trajectory is set. It's the founders job to keep the situation malleable and cast the P/M-fit net wide. Everyone else is likely to follow those leads.

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