Furthermore do you use safari on desktop? Is it actually good? Do you for some reason want apple to do as little as possible? Why? I don't get your angle here. Defend apple at all costs?
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Replying to @sethreidnz @slightlylate
I'm using Chrome right now to talk to you. I tried the Twitter PWA on iOS for a while actually. It was pretty good, but the UX wasn't quite as smooth as the native app. Not because of something iOS did, just because native UI frameworks make building polished apps easier.
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My question was what PWA features are still missing on iOS? It's been pretty good recently.
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Replying to @devongovett @sethreidnz
Off the top of my head: Nav Preload, storage quota (Safari's is whack), anything worklet based (which is how we will get good UX), push notifications, durable storage, splash screens from manifest...I'm sure I'm forgetting a dozen. Its a huge list, and each one blocks a major org
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Replying to @slightlylate @sethreidnz
Is it bad that I’m a web dev and I’ve never even heard of most of those features let alone needed them in a production app? I can’t be the only one... Maybe engine priorities aren’t aligned with web dev needs?
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Thats totally valid imo, people build different things on the web. I will say though, ive talked to dozens of developers building app experiences on the web and Safari seems to always be the "well, this works everywhere but here" browser. Ive seen this harm the web 1/2
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Replying to @Justinwillis96 @devongovett and
to because teams then decide to go native on all platforms just because Safari does not have support for things their PWA needs, even though its in every other browser.
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I find it hard to believe that this choice would be made only because Safari didn’t have a few optimizations. You could easily ship a normal web page. There has to be other factors: UX, delivery mechanism, etc.
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I've seen more devs start to do this, but for apps who have decent sizes of users coming from Safari it becomes an issue, even if Safari is their biggest audience. UX is also an issue because some APIs that allow you to build really nice UX just aren't there in Safari
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Replying to @Justinwillis96 @devongovett and
*isn't their biggest audience
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The confounding factor in many conversations is that decisionmakers (bosses, CEOs, TLs) often carry iPhones, so even folks making a reasonable, market-based decision have to stare down super difficult tradeoffs to make a privileged minority happy.
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