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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      There's no conspiracy. Everyone is doing what incentives suggest absent fair rules of the road. It's slow erosion. Apple killed browser competition because it helps cement native + fears about insecure runtime. FB undermines browser choice on Android for similarly narrow reasons

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    2. Devon Govett‏ @devongovett Mar 11
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      This is all very dramatic. You just said they were knifing the web to death. Then you said they killed browser competition, and implied they did it intentionally. Sounds pretty conspiracy theory like to me.

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      Alex Russell Retweeted Alex Russell

      It's *written into the app store rules*:https://mobile.twitter.com/slightlylate/status/1191026446715604993?lang=en …

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      Section 2.5.6 is the Hotel Cupertino clause: you can pick any browser you like, but you can't choose a better web. In fact, iOS prevents other browsers from even replacing Safari as the system default. 2.5.6 caps web progress at the rate that Apple (under) invests.
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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      Safari started (back in '08) as a fully modern browser of the time. Lack of competition took a long time to rot the mighty ship, but what I'm telling you is that it's leaking below the water line now.

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      I shared some of the data last year. It's a slow-moving emergency; the sort humans are worst at recognising and dealing with:https://vimeo.com/364402896 

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    6. Devon Govett‏ @devongovett Mar 11
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      I think it is clear that Apple is investing in the web, just in different areas than you want. Privacy, security, and user facing features seem to have priority over new web APIs designed by Google. Look at the latest iPad Safari becoming a real desktop class browser.

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    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      They...changed the UA string?

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    8. Devon Govett‏ @devongovett Mar 11
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      Pretty sure it was a lot more complicated than that and you know it.

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      I'm sure that, given the staffing of their team, it was a relatively large investment. That's the problem.

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    10. Devon Govett‏ @devongovett Mar 11
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      I’m sorry, what? How is that the problem?

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      The team is so darned small. They're great, but *wildly* understaffed. Apple could solve this by allowing better engines, or by investing reasonably. Doing neither gets you what we'v got: slow rot.

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        2. Devon Govett‏ @devongovett Mar 11
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          “Better” is subjective, based on your priorities. What in particular do you think is “rotting”? As a web dev, I can’t think of something that I’m excited about using in a real world project that I’m only waiting on Safari to implement. IMO they’ve kept up pretty well.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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          That statement is worryingly circular, and part of how the architecture of control works: by withholding APIs for years, developers don't consider other widely-implemented features "available". We collectively lower our sights in response. Deadweight loss.

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