While this Is ABSOLUTELY true, there are VERY few people working on WebKit full time .It’s important that outside companies contribute to WebKit either directly or through a company like @igalia .Apple consistently treats Safari as its unwanted child
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Replying to @eisaksen @slightlylate and
Why would anyone do that when
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So many reasons! First tho, clarification: In practice the owners of each engine's codebase have the final say in what goes into them. Each of them has many contributors who aren't the maintainers company.
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Replying to @briankardell @brgrz and
Maintaining browser diversity alone is a very good reason. We can disagree on specific leanings from history but I don't think that anyone disagrees that one engine would be too few - lots of googlers said this, I don't think there is disagreement
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Replying to @briankardell @brgrz and
Browser engines are so tremendously complicated that we only get them through evolution of their past selves. Every browser can trace its rendering engine lineage back to at least the late 90s, and they take years to adapt
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Any thoughts on this apparent newcomer? https://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2020/01/new_browser_on.html …
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I mean, obviously I do since we are the maintainers of the official embedded WebKit fork on http://webkit.org/downloads but - too complex for twitter :) Expect more from me this year on the topic. "It's not there yet" is in the interview itself.
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Replying to @briankardell @simonstl and
You can also point to the existing reworks as evidence of the invisible complexity/size of the task. Mozilla servo stuff, Google's LayoutNG... giant, multi-year tasks even for big teams
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Replying to @briankardell @simonstl and
Webkit maintains potential viability for sure. That's no replacement for competition, tho. The price of a better web is now the price of a new phone. Netscape never managed to charge that much!
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Replying to @slightlylate @simonstl and
I understand your sentiment, and I'm not just handwaving - but... Things are complex, intertwined and, hard to separate into a such simple critique, imo. Twitter doesn't really lend itself to great discussion on this kind of topic, I think.
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It actually is as simple as "apple holds the web back". The mechanics are complex, and hope springs eternal, but once you puncture the marketing, that's the net net.
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Replying to @slightlylate @simonstl and
I can only say that I genuinely do not share the idea that it is actually that simple, and that I doubt a twitter debate on the topic is likely productive in resolving that discrepancy right now :)
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