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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 10
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      Alex Russell Retweeted Elliott Sprehn

      It's worse than it looks, folks.https://twitter.com/ElliottZ/status/1237616336718540800 …

      Alex Russell added,

      Elliott Sprehn @ElliottZ
      Is Safari the new IE8? https://github.com/terser/terser/issues/117 … JS bug from 2018, still open: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189914 …
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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 10
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      Y'all are watching Apple knife the web to death, one cut a day for a decade. We're way past a thousand cuts, and they sure had help from FB.

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    3. Erik Isaksen‏ @eisaksen Mar 11
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      Replying to @slightlylate

      While this Is ABSOLUTELY true, there are VERY few people working on WebKit full time .It’s important that outside companies contribute to WebKit either directly or through a company like @igalia .Apple consistently treats Safari as its unwanted child Cc @briankardell

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    4. Marko Hrovatič‏ @brgrz Mar 11
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      Replying to @eisaksen @slightlylate and

      Why would anyone do that when @Apple has the final say what goes into their browser/device?

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    5. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 11
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      Replying to @brgrz @eisaksen and

      So many reasons! First tho, clarification: In practice the owners of each engine's codebase have the final say in what goes into them. Each of them has many contributors who aren't the maintainers company. @igalia is a top contributor to all (see https://bkardell.com/blog/2019-Wrap.html …)

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    6. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 11
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      Replying to @briankardell @brgrz and

      Maintaining browser diversity alone is a very good reason. We can disagree on specific leanings from history but I don't think that anyone disagrees that one engine would be too few - lots of googlers said this, I don't think there is disagreement

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    7. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 11
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      Replying to @briankardell @brgrz and

      Browser engines are so tremendously complicated that we only get them through evolution of their past selves. Every browser can trace its rendering engine lineage back to at least the late 90s, and they take years to adapt

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Simon St.Laurent‏ @simonstl Mar 11
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      Replying to @briankardell @brgrz and

      Any thoughts on this apparent newcomer? https://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2020/01/new_browser_on.html …

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    9. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 11
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      Replying to @simonstl @brgrz and

      I mean, obviously I do since we are the maintainers of the official embedded WebKit fork on http://webkit.org/downloads  but - too complex for twitter :) Expect more from me this year on the topic. "It's not there yet" is in the interview itself.

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    10. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 11
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      Replying to @briankardell @simonstl and

      You can also point to the existing reworks as evidence of the invisible complexity/size of the task. Mozilla servo stuff, Google's LayoutNG... giant, multi-year tasks even for big teams

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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      Replying to @briankardell @simonstl and

      Webkit maintains potential viability for sure. That's no replacement for competition, tho. The price of a better web is now the price of a new phone. Netscape never managed to charge that much!

      8:07 AM - 11 Mar 2020
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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          Replying to @slightlylate @briankardell and

          These #s only hint at the world of pain webdevs face on Safari: https://web-confluence.appspot.com/ 

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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          Replying to @slightlylate @briankardell and

          The slow, hard, painful remedy that we used to have (switching to a better browser) is now toothless on iOS. FruitCo put sand in the tank; stepping on the gas doesn't work any more. Deadweight losses everywhere.

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        2. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell Mar 11
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          Replying to @slightlylate @simonstl and

          I understand your sentiment, and I'm not just handwaving - but... Things are complex, intertwined and, hard to separate into a such simple critique, imo. Twitter doesn't really lend itself to great discussion on this kind of topic, I think.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 11
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          Replying to @briankardell @simonstl and

          It actually is as simple as "apple holds the web back". The mechanics are complex, and hope springs eternal, but once you puncture the marketing, that's the net net.

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