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    1. Aaron Gustafson‏ @AaronGustafson Mar 5
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      Notifying users of changes to your #PWA is hard. We’re thinking about ways to make it easier by enabling you to include a version number and point to an HTML change log, RSS/Atom feed, or similar from within your web app manifest. Feedback appreciated!https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/master/VersionHistory/explainer.md …

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    2. Matt Giuca‏ @mgiuca Mar 6
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      Replying to @AaronGustafson @slightlylate

      I feel like we've had a lot of these "metadata" fields that don't actually affect the app behavior, and they don't seem to have been used much. @marcosc isn't a fan of this type of field. Perhaps we should coalesce them into a separate "metadata.json" file, linked from manifest?

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    3. Dominick Ng‏ @dominickng Mar 6
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      Replying to @mgiuca @AaronGustafson and

      I agree with Matt... it's probably time to consider splitting off things into a separate resource. @slightlyoff, can you quantify what "operational issues" you're thinking about?

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 6
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      Replying to @dominickng @mgiuca and

      Servers deploying mutiple files instead of one in the correct order across global frontends is tricky. Is there evidence of pain that should cause us to prefer multiple files, e.g. download time? If it's just editor preference, that seems like something we could off on.

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 6
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      Replying to @slightlylate @dominickng and

      Other issues: how will we surface a missing metadata file on devtools? If I delete a manifest for an app but not the metadata file, what happens? Is this metadata file scoped exactly the same way? How does it interact with origin-wide configs like Origin Policy? Versioning?

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 6
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      Replying to @slightlylate @dominickng and

      With enough elbowgrease from everyone, I presume all of this can be worked out. Just wondering why we need to work it out *now*; that's all.

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    7. Dominick Ng‏ @dominickng Mar 6
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      Replying to @slightlylate @mgiuca and

      The more we put into manifest now, the harder it is to take it out later. It's good to be thinking about future sustainability - as Matt points out, downloading the manifest blocks installation and smaller mandatory resources benefit everyone

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 6
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      Replying to @dominickng @mgiuca and

      Agree we should be about thinking about sustainability. Curious if we have evidence in hand that additions are an issue.

      3:28 PM - 6 Mar 2020
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        2. Aaron Gustafson‏ @AaronGustafson Mar 6
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          Replying to @slightlylate @dominickng and

          Agreed. Parsing JSON is not terribly costly and if you’re only planning to tap into a handful of keys for the install process initially, it seems pretty inconsequential.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Mar 6
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          Replying to @AaronGustafson @dominickng and

          I'm looking to see if we have data on manifest sizes, e.g. from HTTP Archive

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