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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Feb 27
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      Increasingly distracted by the Performance Inequality Gap: the difference between those in the high-performance bubble thinking they're increasing richness without decreasing reach, but who are actually tanking reach by making content inaccessibly slow.

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    2. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Feb 27
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      What you get wrong is that this isn’t about developer / business maker privilege. It’s about the time vs money equation. I live in the early stage product space and the majority of the time a pitch for web components or whatever “non-JS” option will simply be met with “no”.

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Feb 27
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      This is the most incomprehensible place to be making reach-limiting choices. Product/market fit requires finding a set of users and learning from them. Saying "no" to a huge fraction of them up-front seems like the fast way to lower your learning rate.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Feb 27
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      Anyway, I'm not saying "use WC", I'm saying "send less JS". There are lots of ways to do that.

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    5. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Feb 27
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      There are and I totally agree with you in theory. Send less. Optimize. But for many people and products out there it’s a war field and they are just barely winning. Believe me accessibility and web components are not even a priority and for good reason. (cont)

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    6. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Feb 27
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      Almost every startup fails. That’s the reality and what React got right is the abstraction to be able to iterate and build in a way that a whole spectrum of devs kind of get, and works well enough. That’s why it wins. My point is that even with all the bloat, it’s still worth it

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    7. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Feb 27
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      Before a product can even really be tested by any number of people it’s sending shit loads of JS — yes — but I think you maybe underestimate how much time is (unfortunately) still spend by developers in this stage. And in that stage it doesn’t matter because we are in this bubble

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    8. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Feb 27
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      It’s all a wild test of trial by fire and whatever gets it done the best wins. When you get to YouTube’s size you can try WC.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Feb 27
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      I don't understand how we got on WC. I'm only saying "send less JS"

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        2. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Feb 27
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          Despite your jabs I like your thoughts and I respect you. But I have watched you for years now repeat this mantra without changing your strategy at all. We got on WC because that is more or less the answer from Google. Or use Preact.

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        3. matthew jones  🧻‏ @tahini Feb 27
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          If you ask any developer outright, “should we send less JS” who is going to say no? It’s a worthy goal, no doubt. However, things carry on as they are. Why?

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