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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Politics and such‏ @such_politics Feb 20
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      Sure, but it seems like problems that will go away in a not so distant future

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    2. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake Feb 20
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      Yeah I do remember folks saying that before smartphones became a thing

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    3. Politics and such‏ @such_politics Feb 20
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      But the limitation back then were network speed and low end phones. Surly you can concede that there have been massive improvements wrt both.

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    4. Surma‏ @DasSurma Feb 20
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      Surma Retweeted Alex Russell

      At the top-end, yes absolutely. The middle and bottom? Not so much.https://twitter.com/slightlylate/status/1139684093602349056 …

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      Alex Russell @slightlylate
      People sometimes suggest I should calm down about web performance because the web feels fine on *their* phone. @DasSurma and I pulled a little data to try to visualise why that might be both true and not particularly relevant: pic.twitter.com/9EfoaEJLgf
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    5. Politics and such‏ @such_politics Feb 20
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      True, but the bottom changes so quickly now

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    6. Surma‏ @DasSurma Feb 20
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      That’s the thing. The data doesn’t really support your statement at all. The bottom end is currently stuck with performance equivalent to the flagship phones from 2012/2013. And the rate of development slowwww.

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    7. Politics and such‏ @such_politics Feb 20
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      I am not saying it will change tomorrow, but give it 5 years

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    8. Surma‏ @DasSurma Feb 20
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      Maybe. But 5 years is a lot of time that websites _today_ do need to care about these limitations imo.

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    9. Politics and such‏ @such_politics Feb 20
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      Yeah I agree. I have actually built large ssr sites and seen the positive impact. I am not trolling, just somewhat convinced that this will eventually be analogous to the memory story:-)

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Feb 20
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      The memory story is also not what you seem to presume it is. We're spending many engineer-years, in 2020, too optimise for situations where Chrome may only have 100-300MiB to run in.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Feb 20
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      As with desktop, the low end is defined by replacement. The P90 device was sold 4+ years ago. It has 512-1GB of memory and 2-4 A53 cores in the 1.1-1.4Ghz range. Memory constrains what those users can do more than anything else.

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        1. Politics and such‏ @such_politics Feb 21
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          Laptops with 4GB of ram were fairly standard at mainstream places like BestBuy back back in 2008-2010... Where is the proof that the computer you are pointing to here is dominating the desktop space?

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