How Web Standards Work 1. design a flawed API (it's fine! APIs are hard) 2. ship it in the most-used browser, despite objections 3. get cross-browser working group to fix the API 4. oops, too late, that would break the webpic.twitter.com/IuU6Xxzilv
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Would it result in changes to how you do things, so that web developers are spared further episodes like this one?
Similar things currently happening in the HTTP WG. Chrome’s intent to freeze UA is pushing through a proposed standard despite: - thin vendor support (a single tweet?) - significant dispute over privacy gains - no serious attempt to measure impact - unilateral closure of issues
Just to be clear, and assuming you're discussing AC-UA, the proposal has been made but there's no clarity that it'll ship. It's also *significantly* less onerous for sites than what Safari *already shipped to stable with no public discussion*.
Based on this and like 1000 other examples, it seems you are not doing a good job handling Chrome's standards...
I've gotta be honest, and trying to be honest and open.. as cool as it is to be open about this stuff.. offering a private call to someone because they are fairly well known in the community is a depressing state for standards process, this really isn't the right answer.
Maybe beta features for a year or two before deciding on what the non-webkit-prefixed api should be? See what feedback you can get from devs first? I'm constantly stumped by how many holes there are in web dev atm. Why didn't web workers ship with access to the crypto api?
Prefixing all non-standard things is a great start to not accidentally expand the web api like a hostile takeover of the spec
Serious talk, Alex: I know you want a rich ecosystem and it's great that you work with standards bodies. Is there a public link (blog?) which will explain why it's a good thing to "break the web" with proprietary technology? Do you still consider real people as stakeholders?
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