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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris Jan 23
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      How Web Standards Work 1. design a flawed API (it's fine! APIs are hard) 2. ship it in the most-used browser, despite objections 3. get cross-browser working group to fix the API 4. oops, too late, that would break the webpic.twitter.com/IuU6Xxzilv

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Jan 23
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      Hi Rich, I run standards for Chrome. If you'd like to discuss our approach, happy to set up a call.

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        2. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris Jan 23
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          Would it result in changes to how you do things, so that web developers are spared further episodes like this one?

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        2. ronan cremin‏ @xbs Jan 24
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          Replying to @slightlylate @Rich_Harris

          Similar things currently happening in the HTTP WG. Chrome’s intent to freeze UA is pushing through a proposed standard despite: - thin vendor support (a single tweet?) - significant dispute over privacy gains - no serious attempt to measure impact - unilateral closure of issues

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Jan 24
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          Replying to @xbs @Rich_Harris

          Just to be clear, and assuming you're discussing AC-UA, the proposal has been made but there's no clarity that it'll ship. It's also *significantly* less onerous for sites than what Safari *already shipped to stable with no public discussion*.

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        1. Kevin Woblick‏ @kovah_kvh Jan 23
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          Based on this and like 1000 other examples, it seems you are not doing a good job handling Chrome's standards...

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        1. Stephen Taylor‏ @meandmycode Jan 24
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          Replying to @slightlylate @Rich_Harris

          I've gotta be honest, and trying to be honest and open.. as cool as it is to be open about this stuff.. offering a private call to someone because they are fairly well known in the community is a depressing state for standards process, this really isn't the right answer.

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        2. Filip Haglund‏ @drathier Jan 24
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          Maybe beta features for a year or two before deciding on what the non-webkit-prefixed api should be? See what feedback you can get from devs first? I'm constantly stumped by how many holes there are in web dev atm. Why didn't web workers ship with access to the crypto api?

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        3. Filip Haglund‏ @drathier Jan 24
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          Prefixing all non-standard things is a great start to not accidentally expand the web api like a hostile takeover of the spec

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        1. Tom Tooms‏ @TomTooms Jan 26
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          Serious talk, Alex: I know you want a rich ecosystem and it's great that you work with standards bodies. Is there a public link (blog?) which will explain why it's a good thing to "break the web" with proprietary technology? Do you still consider real people as stakeholders?

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