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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Surma‏ @DasSurma Jan 14
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      Surma Retweeted Intent To Ship

      Super excited to see this. Safari froze it’s UA string in TP 46 already. Firefox and Edge are supportive and aim to do the same. Use feature detection, not UA sniffing.https://twitter.com/intenttoship/status/1217052813081161728 …

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      Intent To Ship @intenttoship
      Blink: Intent to Deprecate and Freeze: The User-Agent string https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/-2JIRNMWJ7s/yHe4tQNLCgAJ …
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    2. Andrew Betts‏ @triblondon Jan 14
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      Replying to @DasSurma

      This is an extremely bad call

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    3. Yoav Weiss‏ @yoavweiss Jan 14
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      Replying to @triblondon @DasSurma

      Care to elaborate?

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    4. Jake‏ @JakeDChampion Jan 14
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      Replying to @yoavweiss @triblondon @DasSurma

      I think @slightlylate did a great job at explaining some concerns about this in the original issue --> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/-2JIRNMWJ7s/PT08NFFYCgAJ … Sorry for joining the conversation here, I work with Andrew on @polyfillio (which Alex mentioned in their comment).

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    5. Yoav Weiss‏ @yoavweiss Jan 14
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      Replying to @JakeDChampion @triblondon and

      Does http://polyfill.io  need more than Sec-CH-UA gives it without an opt-in? (i.e. brand and major version)

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    6. Jake‏ @JakeDChampion Jan 14
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      Replying to @yoavweiss @triblondon and

      Yes, we need minor version also

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    7. Yoav Weiss‏ @yoavweiss Jan 14
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      Replying to @JakeDChampion @triblondon and

      To what purpose? Bug fixes?

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    8. Jake‏ @JakeDChampion Jan 14
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      Replying to @yoavweiss @triblondon and

      Yep exactly that. It's not frequent we use minor version nowadays but it does happen - here is a list of polyfills we have which target minor versions --https://gist.github.com/JakeChampion/fab796e59dfd3ff1a831186bf2b21c3d …

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    9. Jake‏ @JakeDChampion Jan 14
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      Replying to @JakeDChampion @yoavweiss and

      The last polyfill to need minor version targeting was AbortController for iOS Safari as it was not present in 11.1 but was present in 11.2

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    10. Jake‏ @JakeDChampion Jan 14
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      Replying to @JakeDChampion @yoavweiss and

      Last month we did 41.8 billion requests, hopefully we can figure out a way to get minor version without hurting the performance of those requests

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Jan 14
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      Replying to @JakeDChampion @yoavweiss and

      In the thread, I asked for some characterisation of the perf impact of losing this information. Any way we can partner to get (and publish) that data? Also, for @yoavweiss, we need the model published re: how much each bit matters and threshold values.

      9:51 AM - 14 Jan 2020
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        1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate Jan 14
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          Replying to @slightlylate @JakeDChampion and

          API OWNERs can't possibly greenlight this without some firmer cost/value data.

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        2. Jake‏ @JakeDChampion Jan 14
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          Replying to @slightlylate @yoavweiss and

          We can definitely partner to get the data and publish it so long as it respects our privacy policy (or we update the privacy policy) -- https://polyfill.io/v3/privacy-policy/#what-information-do-we-collect-from-the-service …

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        3. Andrea Giammarchi‏ @WebReflection Jan 14
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          Replying to @JakeDChampion @slightlylate and

          my *current* technique to polyfill Safari due missing Custom Elements built-in extends is based on `document.write` that ensures the injected script executes *before* the next one. TL;DR devs never needed to bundle polyfills without feature detection, but document.write sucks too

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