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    1. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 30 Dec 2019
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      One model I'd like to see grow a lot is that of independent expert contracting agencies like @igalia. That can create more of an effective free market for platform improvements and maintenance.

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    2. Marcos Càceres‏ @marcosc 30 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @RickByers @auchenberg @igalia

      Me too, but it still requires caution: just because something gets funding doesn’t mean the community stakeholders will accept the patches. It’s best to get 100% assurance by the project owners that the feature will be accepted before any code gets written.

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    3. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 30 Dec 2019
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      That’s why I’d be great to have open governance models for these open source projects.

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    4. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 30 Dec 2019
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      There's no 100% assurance anywhere. All (browser) engineering involves uncertainty and risk. But expertise can minimize that risk and I suspect Igalia and Google are probably batting about the same average in chromium these days...

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    5. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 30 Dec 2019
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      I'd be interested to hear of any examples where more formal governance could have helped reduce uncertainty or risk though.

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    6. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 30 Dec 2019
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      Sometimes, all you need is the reassurance that the process is fair and balanced.

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    7. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 30 Dec 2019
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      While I’m not familiar enough with Chrome development to point at particular examples where the governance model helped derisk implementation, I have a recent example in mind with AMP where I feel like the governance model really did.

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    8. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 30 Dec 2019
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      The particular example in mind was implementing the opt-out mechanism for CCPA compliance by next Wednesday. I strongly believe the governance system was critical in making sure that deadline was met and that the implemented solution was actually the right one.

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    9. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 30 Dec 2019
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      It would be interesting to interview other players in the chromium field to see how they feel about the governance model, and if they’d be more keen to contribute if the governance model was different.

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    10. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 30 Dec 2019
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      Actually, now that I think a bit more about it, there was a lot of uncertainty around the privacy and security requirements that chromium had around the sensor work I did for Intel a few years ago, that a better governance system would have clarified upfront.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 30 Dec 2019
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      Privacy and security review will be product-by-product for the foreseeable future. I don't see a way for a different governance structure to help. Better collaboration and project publication (e.g., Fugu) can help, tho.

      4:51 PM - 30 Dec 2019
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        2. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 30 Dec 2019
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          Can you clarify what you mean by product-by-product here?

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 30 Dec 2019
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          Chromium-embedding products, e.g. Chrome, Opera, Edge, Samsung Internet, UC, Xiaomi Browser, etc.

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