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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 19 Dec 2019
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    Alex Russell Retweeted Jeffrey Yasskin

    The important point here is that what the web needs is a set of browsers/engines competing *at the leading edge*. Multi-year delays in delivering features to 90+% of users are all-too common, and the problem isn't update rates any more.https://twitter.com/jyasskin/status/1207739254480048128 …

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    Jeffrey Yasskin @jyasskin
    Replying to @simevidas @slightlylate @ohunt
    It would be way better if several browsers had similar market share. But because of https://twitter.com/slightlylate/status/1207736488105955329 …, we shouldn't get there by making Chrome worse. Instead, Apple should invest more in Safari, and Brave, Edge, Samsung, Opera, etc. should keep building UIs users want more.
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      2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 19 Dec 2019
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        Alex Russell Retweeted Marcos Càceres

        E.g.: https://twitter.com/marcosc/status/1207512288938192896?s=20 … Consider: 1.) Moz killed WCv0 & knifed imports in Q4'14 2.) All (Google, Apple, MSFT, Mozilla) agreed WCv1 by Q4'15 3.) Chrome shipped v1 in Q4'16, Safari in Q1'17 4.) Mozilla didn't ship until *Q4'18* 5.) Edge finally getting WC w/ Anaheim launch

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        Marcos Càceres @marcosc
        I'm confused about people wanting new HTML elements when custom elements don't appear to even be interoperable across browsers yet :/ Can we a least finish one thing before we move onto the next thing?
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      3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 19 Dec 2019
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        Chrome team re-engaged on v1 design in '15 under the presumption that Mozilla circa '14 objections were good-faith and that everyone who showed up to re-litigate v0 design would keep faith with users waiting for the new stuff and implement in a timely way.

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      4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 19 Dec 2019
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        We'll have full coverage come the Anaheim launch, but nothing was gained for the delay. Engine diversity is a s good as it's fruits.

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      2. Clemens Stolle‏ @klaemo 19 Dec 2019
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        Different browsers, different priorities I’d say. Why is Chrome lagging behind in privacy so much? When will it finally catch up and be less user hostile? You can twist and turn this however you want, different people value different things in the web platform.

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      3. Luke‏ @lmcdo_ 20 Dec 2019
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        Chrome also never bothered with an AOT asm.js engine, for example. I thought Chrome adopted AOT asm.js optimizations as a stopgap for larger changes! Shame, I guess Chrome isn't a leading edge browser :-/

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      1. Jan de Mooij‏ @jandemooij 20 Dec 2019
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        I'd say what the web needs is companies and browsers respecting their users privacy. Chrome is falling behind.

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      2. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 19 Dec 2019
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        Multiple leading engines competing at a fast pace isn’t possible. No one will spend to keep up with google because they have no reason to.

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      3. Alex Danilo‏ @alexanderdanilo 20 Dec 2019
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        Replying to @RonaldDiemicke @slightlylate

        Indeed, when Netscape's shareware license was $39 there was indeed an incentive for browser makers to innovate. Alternate browser engines perhaps have other priorities when you can't expect payment for your browser any more... https://www0.gsb.columbia.edu/mygsb/faculty/research/pubfiles/1196/mosaic_case.pdf …

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      1. Art‏ @artmllr 20 Dec 2019
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        Replying to @slightlylate

        Isn't the issue here that *leading edge* kinda depends on individual perspective?

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