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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 16 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @dfabu @slightlylate and

      I'm skeptical simply changing the name is going to help much (though I do support the name change). There's no longer an assumption of good intent, so any misunderstanding will become an all out attack.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 16 Dec 2019
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      But why do you think there's no longer an assumption of good intent and what do you think could be done to regain it?

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    3. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 16 Dec 2019
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      I'd love to reply honestly to this. But I'm reminded of what one of my team told me recently about leadership communication:

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    4. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 16 Dec 2019
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      1. In any discussion of complex, nuanced topics with 10,000s of people someone will be upset by any meamingful position taken and loose trust in the speaker

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    5. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 16 Dec 2019
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      2. These days trust is >10x harder to build than to loose

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    6. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 16 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @RickByers @wycats and

      Therefore the optimal strategy for building/preserving trust is to say nothing of any meaning when speaking to large groups. Sigh...

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    7. Rick Byers‏ @RickByers 16 Dec 2019
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      Clearly we see this play out in global politics these days. What's the implication of this for the evolution of open platforms?

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    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats 18 Dec 2019
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      I think this is an erroneous view that is causing Googlers to circle the wagons and become increasingly insular. I'd be happy to have an offline conversation about this but I really don't think the perspective of Google's culture is trending positive.

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    9. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 18 Dec 2019
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      Am I understanding your POV that Googlers becoming insular is *causing* these problems, and that insulation is a vicious cycle? Specifically, is that what you think happened to toast?

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    10. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 18 Dec 2019
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      IMO, what happened to toast was that folks assumed that Google wants to abuse its market power to ship stuff without going through standardization, and that implementation naturally comes only after standardization. They thought I2I meant "we're done with standardization."

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 18 Dec 2019
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      Replying to @dfabu @wycats and

      And that was clearly a bad-faith argument by many who knew better. Some were genuinely confused. Neither bothered to stop and ask if their assumption of malign intent was correct. SMDH.

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        2. Bruce Lawson. At home.‏ @brucel 18 Dec 2019
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          The counter-argument, on behalf of people who don't know you and yr team personally: Google has amp; Google routinely blocks Firefox, and even other chromium browsers from its properties. So the onus is on Google to earn/ prove good faith in standards, not assume it.

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        3. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 18 Dec 2019
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          I don't think it's fair for the web dev community to cross our arms and say "Google, we assume everything you do is evil. Prove to us that you're worth listening to. I don't know how; that's your problem, not mine."

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        1. Dave Cramer‏ @dauwhe 18 Dec 2019
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          Yes, there was genuine confusion about process, which Google has taken positive steps to fix. But I'm not sure how helpful talk of "intent" is. Some of us feared that web features were being developed in a way that made it harder for the community to provide early feedback.

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