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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris 23 Nov 2019
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      Rich Harris Retweeted Sarah Mei

      So, web components • break a11y • break progressive enhancement (no SSR, broken without JS) • don't work with SVG • share a global namespace instead of being modular • ... Imagine how much tedious moralising we'd see if JS frameworks shipped with similar limitationshttps://twitter.com/sarahmei/status/1198069119897047041 …

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      Sarah MeiVerified account @sarahmei
      PSA: There is currently no way for web components to be accessible if you use the isolation feature (called “shadow dom”). Isolate the label from the input field, for example, & you break all the assistive technology - which requires they be tied together with ids.
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    2. Joseph Kohlmann (he/him/his)‏ @jkohlmann 23 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @Rich_Harris

      Seems like a waste of The Platform™️

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    3. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris 23 Nov 2019
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      yup platform advocates yesterday: "We should stop leaning so heavily on JS, and prioritise HTML and CSS instead" platform advocates today: "Just shove your HTML and CSS as strings inside a JS class"

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 23 Nov 2019
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      Rich, you're better than this. CSS embedded as strings *is not great*, for all the reasons I've outlined. It's a fallacy to say anyone promoting greater platform reliance is happy about it; actively attacking root of these costs in other ways now (constructable sheets, e.g.)

      9:12 PM - 23 Nov 2019
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 23 Nov 2019
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          Constructable Style Sheets handle one half of the advantages we got from Imports (HTML as base importable type): they allow us to cheaply re-apply in context w/ reparsing. Left with residual costs in V8/JS heap & parsing. CSS modules can address...

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 23 Nov 2019
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          ...but now the folks who said "we need to wait on ESM" (rather than Imports) have a bad time because security & fetch options are difficult to shoehorn into JS import syntax. Lesson for me in this is that we should not have unshipped Imports for handwaving by TC93 folk.

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