Good progress has been made but more via incremental work that does make it cross-browser sooner than later. This enables adapting to lessons learned and emergent knowledge, as well as to hardware & network shifts foreseen poorly or missed. Can we de-escalate from emergency talk?
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Replying to @BrendanEich @cramforce and
It's an emergency. We've been steadily losing on mobile and too many are acculturated to the pace of loss.
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Replying to @slightlylate @BrendanEich and
Lots of folks are happy to retreat into privilege and desktop. OK. But that doesn't make it less of a crisis if we want the web to be meaningful in the lives of most users.
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Replying to @slightlylate @BrendanEich and
Some people are happy to give up. That's fine too. But they shouldn't be policing accurate language or misrepresenting the work we've done in the open and through standards to improve things.
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Replying to @slightlylate @BrendanEich and
So will Google be working on making it easier to host mail servers so that Gmail can finally become obsolete?
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Replying to @HarperMitchell @slightlylate and
Unless by "the web" you only mean the client side
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黒田 東彦 stan 🚫 🛬 5️⃣-gon Retweeted Steve Randy Waldman
Many feel like Google is doing just enough to keep people hooked on their walked garden of services under the guise of democratizing client developmenthttps://twitter.com/interfluidity/status/1191239999175319552?s=19 …
黒田 東彦 stan 🚫 🛬 5️⃣-gon added,
Steve Randy Waldman @interfluidityReplying to @interfluidity @fugueish @HarperMitchellskills and knowledge almost impossible, because learnings are quickly obsoleted by the next “improvement” on continuous deployment. The 1990s web centered URLs and view source, treated users as contributors. This web treats users the way a pusher does. /fin1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @HarperMitchell @slightlylate and
My point being, there are different conceptions of what constitutes an emergency and some of those conceptions are better for certain business models than others
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Replying to @HarperMitchell @slightlylate and
黒田 東彦 stan 🚫 🛬 5️⃣-gon Retweeted Steve Randy Waldman
Another phrase for this phenomenon might be "infantilization of users"https://twitter.com/interfluidity/status/1191221932479275008?s=19 …
黒田 東彦 stan 🚫 🛬 5️⃣-gon added,
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Replying to @HarperMitchell @slightlylate and
I'll end the thread with this: hoping for the day "needing to let a 3rd party read every piece of email for one to have an integrated set of email-tied-in features" is seen as a time of a dark and unfortunate past, and for leadership from the web standards teams at google
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Confusing "internet" with "web" is not helping your arguments.
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Replying to @slightlylate @BrendanEich and
Are there not hyperlinks in almost every email?
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Replying to @HarperMitchell @BrendanEich and
Might I suggest this to help clarify terms?https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/24/15681958/what-is-web-definition …
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